Koreans – Original?
I have assembled a number of things that originate in Korea, indisputably (like Dokdo). Here they are.
Screw you Starbucks, Starpreya is the best!
The origin of Kitkat is Korea! Oops, I mean ‘Kicker’!
Japanese stole our prawns!
And our whales!
These chocolate mushrooms are grown on Dokdo, which is undisputed Korean territory. From 500 BC. Which is how long Koreans have been producing this product. 2500 years before the Japanese!
Surely Chocopie has to be a Korean original, right? Oh, bunk!
Yes, I am slow but I am starting to detect a pattern
Nothing better than a pack of caramel corn after a hard days work
Followed by a Bacchus. The Japanese even copied the number of spurs around the cog wheel exactly. I know this because Dokdo is Korean… Yes…
Ha! Mychew rymes with Hichew! Take that, Ilbon nom!
Forget the watered down Japanese Chu Hi! We have Korean Hi Chu! Made thousands of years ago on Dokdo. Did you know there were people on Dokdo? Yes, the Samguk Sagi tells us that. Common sense tells us that is referring to Ulleungdo, but still…
Seems to be happening to often to be coincidence. Maybe the Japanese are copying Korea again. Like they copied Korean Geisha, which is Korean, as you know
Here is a picture of Japanese Calpis and Korean Coolpis. Korean Coolpis was invented by Koreans hundreds of years ago. All records of this were destroyed by Japanese, at the same time they destroyed the records of Korea ever ruling Dokdo. Koreans enjoy drinking Coolpis in the summer. It is very cool, this Coolpis
Japanese try to say that they introduced Calpis into Korea in 1919. But we dont believe our eyes, do we?
Same granny, different product
You want Puma? Try the original Korean ‘Pama’ instead!
Oh, even Astroboy…
More coincidences! Even Yuri Song from FINKL is wearing the same thing as the members of Japanese girl group, Morning Musume
Again!
Sure but one group doesnt prove a pattern!
This… Proves… Nothing… Kendo, Karate, Cherry Blossoms, Japanese pottery is all Korean bwahahaha
Hahaha, they have been shopping at the same place ^^
Glam is more glamorous than Glay!
Same fashion sense!
Wow! Same two again!
They must go shopping together! Or something…
Japanese textbooks distort history and deny the greatness of the Great Korean Race. However, technical books like this tennis book should be ripped off whenever possible
‘TIME TRAVEL TO THE ROOT OF SAMURAI’? Now Samurai are Korean too? Good grief
The Korean claims are quite staggering, and although there are victims all over the world, they seem to favor ripping off the Japanese. Korean historical claims are extremely shakey, and should be looked at with a critical eye.
It laughed.
笑った。
The rip-off of a motorbike.
バイクのパクリ。
http://nandakorea.sakura.ne.jp/html/bike.html
well, at least cool-piss sounds better than cow-piss.
Nice collection!!!
It really shows Koreans’ shameless mentality.
I think both Japan and Korea ripped off America’s Moon Pie.
somehow these pics remind me when i visited the u.s. first time with my family. my 4 year old daughter happily said, “dad! look! there is a japanese restaurant in the u.s.” she was pointing at a Mcdonald’s.
Disregarding how foolishly petty you are being for the moment, I should point out that while Saulabi is a Korean film, its setting is in Japan.
The movie repeats the baseless claim that the Samurai originated in Korea.
On a more positive note, I’d love to see a list of “Original Korean Thoughts”… I’m sure it would be very short.
I have been told that the portable MP3 player was an original idea from Korea.
Anyway, its no surprise this happens when you have such a narrow education system which breeds people for wrote-learning. I think many of Korea’s societal problems also stem from their embarassing education system which hasn’t been reformed in 500 years.
Given all the copying that Korea does, its no wonder they are a leader in stem cell research and cloning!
so we should call these products results of fine “cloning” instead of copying.
You’re really a freak, Japanese Flute Boy. A lot of these Korean products ARE Japanese, not “copies.” They’re sold in Korea with Korean writing on them. But that doesn’t matter. Koreans are distinctly inferior to Japanese, aren’t they? Your whole site is dedicated to exposing them, isn’t it? Ganbatte! Are you Japanese or a half-breed Japanese? You’ve been asked that many times, why not a straight answer?
I beg to differ. As a reader, you’ve done well in proving that you’re the Japan-bashing, Korean apologist freak. Should I break out Yiddish and call you faegala?
Oh, that’s right. You’ll call me a “dirty Jew” for using Yiddish, though I’m not even Jewish…
What difference would it make if he was half-Japanese? Is that to imply that mixed blood children are inferior?
I smell a Korean, since such an interest in eugenics is part and parcel a product of their education system: foreigners = bad, Japanese = bad, mixed blood = bad….
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Actually, NO. Not all of them are. In fact, many of them are unlisenced knock offs.
This brings me to the legitimate crossover products from LOTTE – a Japanese company. It started off as a manufacturere of chewing gum in Japan in the late fourties. In Korea there is a (wrong) insistance that Lotte is indeed Korean, and that the tycoon behind it is Korean. It isn’t. It is infact Japanese with a Korean subsidiary.
Lotteria – Korean? Nope. Started in Japan. Don’t tell the Koreans.
Many Koreans still insist that Osamu Tezuka’s Astroboy (Tetuwan Atomu) is a Korean creation, created by a Korean. Despite Astroboy being created by an ethnically Japanese man some 15 years before it was swiped by Korea, I think history speaks for itself.
Oh, that’s right: reality and genuine history mean little to Koreans. Only “pure blood.”
Not many, actually. In fact, every single product he hs ited is NOT a lisenced product but a shameless knockoff.
You fail to address the manufactured hangookin pop stars faking the funk from the infinitely more talented, creative Japanese mnufactured pop stars that did the same things FIRST.
Oh, that’s right. Korean arguments will sweep aside the overwhelming facts (bad textbook that shouldn’t be used being considered by only 11 schools. Fuck it, let’s just make it sound like all of Japan will use the book!)
No, it doesn’t, because you can’t insinuate the same about the pop divas and pop goons blatantly ripping off the Japanese originals…
I won’t speak for this blog’s owner, but if
say so…
Man alive, I hope this site IS! Somebody has to do it.
I agree! Good luck adn godspeed, Shak!
Maybe they don’t feel the need to answer because the assholes asking it are racist cocksuckers who like to bash the Japanese for no reson outside of having nothing original to call their own that has made an impact on the world like the Japanese.
The medical term is “penis envy,” though I like Frank Zappa’s lable better: “weenus envy,” because someone posting under “George Bush” has no BALLS.
Keep up the great work, Shak!
I would like to add that “SALUBI” was such a critical and box office bomb that you can find it in record store DVD discount racks in Korea for about four thousand won.
The point is Koreans have claimed “moon pie was invented by Korean”.
It’s cleary copying=violation of copyrights=illegal=crime.
Bob Reemus I am not Korean, just keep rubbing your dick on Shak’s ass, you’re made for each other.
Uh, okay. Are you implying that the Japanese are original?
By the way, what’s with the baseless fashion pictures? Do people expect all entertainment artists to wear different brands of clothing? These instances are far too common to be taken seriously. The sad part is these are really all that the nandekorea site consists of.
So, is this site based around anti-Koreanism/Pro-Japanism? Sure seems like it.
Some of these are blatant rip-offs and it would be nice if the copyright holders would make some effort to enforce the trademarks, but more than a few of the ones you mentioned are licensed products and it says so on the can, bottle, or package. Otsuka Corporation, for example, sells lots of products in Korea. How would I know this? I read the package that says so in Korean. It even has the website in English right on the can:
Relax Time… TEJAVA
http://www.donga-otsuka.co.kr
Hi Kushibo. Specifically, which ones are the licensed ones?
Hi Kushibo. Specifically, which ones are the licensed ones?
I would have to go to the supermarket to find out which ones are and which ones aren’t, and even then a lot of the information would have to be checked on-line.
Donga-Otsuka has an on-line list of some of their products, including Pocari Sweat, just for starters. I know that other companies go into other licensing deals, since we’ve helped create some of their company materials explaining this stuff. It would be a days-long project to check all the stuff on here.
But make no mistake, there are some blatant rip-offs (”Pama” on your website, or some Disney character shirts I saw about ten years ago that said “Donard Duck” and “Goopy” on them), and that’s something that shouldn’t be tolerated, but it’s up to the trademark holder to make sure the trademark is enforced when they see it hurting them (maybe some of them just don’t see it hurting them).
By the way, where did you hear that Koreans “invented” the Choc-Pie? Even on Orion’s own website, it says they “introduced” the Choco Pie in 1974.
Stupid Koreans who only focus to copy from Japan/others ideas..that’s why most of their companies cannot be world class.
From my experiences in Korea, most Koreans shows over-confident on the outside to cover their deep down feelings of shame.
Are you quoting me? Because the word ‘invented’ is used only twice on this page, once in relation to ‘Coolpis’, and once by you.
I know that Pocari sweat is licensed, which is why it is not on this list. Personally, I have tried every product on the list except NURUNJI candy and the Korean version of Fran, so I am positively certain that the others were ‘inspired’ by their Japanese counterpart. The similar but different names should be a clue to the fact that they are being ripped off.
If you find any of the stuff here is actually licensed, ill take it down with explanation/apology.
Firstly, he never said that ALL of the products are Japanese.
Also, I don’t think it’s fair to label Lotte as Korean or Japanese. Sure, the company began in Tokyo, but it was founded by a Korean (Shin Gyeok Ho). Today, Lotte is very successful in both Korea and Japan, with corporate offices and production facilities in both. Personally, when I think “Lotte,” I think Korea, probably due to how much of Lotte is invested into the country. http://www.lotte.com also leads to the Korean site.
The same goes for Lotteria. http://www.lotteria.com (not that domain names matter a great deal).
What’s up with this blog anyway? Seems like all who disagree immediately get labeled as a Korean. Before the accusations start, I am not Korean. I’m not even Asian.
By the way, I’d assume that the shrimp chips, whale things, and mushroom things are all licensed products, seeing as they are manufactured by Orion and Nong Shim. Is the Japanese drink being compared to Bacchus soley because of the cog wheel, or are they also similar drinks? When was the Japanese drink created?
http://photo.jijisama.org/Pakuri01.html
It seems http://photo.jijisama.org is a popular site to rip off from.
If you have something to add to the discussion, lets hear it. Otherwise, I will crack down on trolling hard.
That shrimp chips are not licensed product. Japanese snack food maker Calbee stated it before.
Some of these cases are taken to court. Starbucks filed a lawsuit against Starpreya in March. For Hichew and Mychew, the Japanese manufacturer sued the Korean manufacturer last year. In both cases, the plaintiffs lost! Anyway, they are considered “legal” in Korea.
Your source material, http://photo.jijisama.org, is an anti-Korean website written by a Japanese.
http://www.geocities.co.jp/Outdoors-Marine/1235/ is also a good site to get the biased Japanese viewpoint.
Just wondering if your viewpoint is the same as these Japanese or whether you are just quoting them.
Hahaha. I have seen both of those sites before. The Jijisama site was one of my sources, but certainly not the only one. You percieve the site as being ‘anti Korean’, but what is exactly your problem with the site? Are they lying about something? Or is it the truth that bothers you?
Looking at the ‘Boycott Korea’ site (your second link), it seems to me that they are mainly annoyed with the anti Japanese sentiment emanating from Korea.
If you have a problem with the content on this site or think I am writing something untrue, then speak up. I am open to debate you on it.
the owner of this site is probably some white guy who obsessesion with asian girls has spawned itself into this blog
Hey Bruce, I am hunting you down buddy. Soon I will have your home or work address. Here is what I found out about you so far.
IP: 203.9.248.18
Country: AUSTRALIA
Region: NEW SOUTH WALES
City: SYDNEY
ISP: INTERNET ACCESS AUSTRALIA PTY LTD
The trace I am running shouldnt take much longer.
>If you have a problem with the content on this site or think I am writing >something untrue, then speak up. I am open to debate you on it.
Oh, no problem with the content. Everyone is free to express their opinion (unless they get banned). I was just wondering if what you post is what YOU believe or are you just reported what others think.
>but what is exactly your problem with the site?
No problem with these sites either. Quite interesting in fact.
But, neither “I hate Korea” websites nor “I hate Japan” websites really help the situation.
Perhaps if you tell a little something about yourself in your website, like your philosophy, readers can better understand the content. So far, I feel it is “anti-Korean”
Basically I am a white guy with an interest in both Korea and Japan. However, Korea is quite vexing because Koreans seem to be beset by the most unusual kind of superiority/inferiority complexes. It means that a foreigner can communicate with Koreans and get along just fine, as long as they never discuss certain issues with Koreans (or never disagree with the Koreans if the subject comes up – I know many foreigners that just tell Koreans what they want to hear just to get along, while thinking something else). So basically I want to write some truthful things about Korea on this site (and other things that interest me).
I have an open offer to delete anything on this site that people think is insulting to Koreans, as long as you can demonstrate that it is not true.
Some already asked me if I was anti Korean. The answer is here.
I hope this answer satisfies you. Now that we are on the subject, what is your philosphy?
jijisama.org referes variety of sources include the texts written by korean themselves.
Starbucks and Kitkat and puma are not Japanese company/products.
Thanks kushibo. I withdraw the Otsuka products.
Frankly, RGM-79, I think it’s a bit disingenuous to withdraw products you had made claims were unauthorized copies.
It is absolutely true that there are rip-offs happening, but it’s also true that some people (including you, apparently) are jumping to the conclusion that any copy is unauthorized.
If you thought it was an unauthorized copy and then you realized it’s not, then you should leave it up there with an update note that states: I have been informed this is NOT a copy. Or something like that. Let people see that you are not infallible. Let them realize that even some of the stuff still up on your website might also be authorized and you haven’t realized it yet.
Just taking it off your site with a one-line mention keeps the distortion going.
Minifibre removed from copied products list because it seems that it is indeed a licensed product. Also removed Fran until I can confirm it myself. The remaining food products I have tried and dont recall any licensing information on the packs. My apologies to the Otsuka company and people that felt mislead.
Look.Calorie balance is not donga-otsuka, it’s rip-off.
http://nandakorea.sakura.ne.jp/img/wbs.jpg
Korean makers call rip-off stuffs “me-too products”
“me-too is already common.”
http://nandakorea.sakura.ne.jp/img/metoo1.jpg
Above pictures are from this TV program aired in Jan 2005.
http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/wbs/2005/01/26/tokushu/o1.html
By the way, the “pama” shop is being misrepresented by your caption (”You want Puma? Try the original Korean ‘Pama’ instead!”).
While it’s clear the logo is taken directly from Puma, there is no way that a consumer in Korea would mistake the shop for selling Puma products or Puma knock-offs because it’s a 미용실, a beauty shop. The whole point of the shop’s name is that it’s a play on words: “Pama” (파마) is the derivative Korean word for “perm,” a very common thng people get at a beauty shop. If I were Puma, I suppose I wouldn’t be too happy about them using my logo, but there is no way that this can be construed as ripping off the product someone is selling.
I think I may have found one for you involving Morinaga Foods, which sells Silken Tofu, with an italics label. There is a different company’s product called Silk Soy Milk, also with an italics label. Does that constitute a copy-cat product?
It depends on the terms of the font’s license.
But mostly, if you purchased the license to use the font, no problem.
Copyrights and Fonts.
http://www.techwr-l.com/techwhirl/archives/9802/techwhirl-9802-00667.html
Well, what do you think about using a similarly-looking font and a similar-sounding brand name to sell another soy-based product? Rip-off or no?
kushibo, don’t you know “silken tofu” is a pronoun.
絹豆腐 絹ごし豆腐
Not a noun.
But Puma is a noun and registered trademark.
As for the fonts, please read above post.
First, let me admit that I’m a Korean. So, even though I’m trying to be objective as much as I can, I probably have some bias in my opinion.
Now on the subject, I don’t deny that there are a lot of rip-offs in Korea. I think most Koreans are aware of that. Yet, I don’t believe ripping-off is anything to do with being Korean. It happens all the time in any many parts of the world. Look China, they are ripping-off Korean products. Not that I condone it, because others also do, but trying to label this as a Korean thing seems a little too far fetched and unfair. (If that’s not the intention, my apologies).
And, among the list, I don’t think Astro boy (or Atom in Korea) is considered Korean origin among Koreans at all. Maybe there are a few who believe so, but I believe that’s minority. Actually, if you can read Korean, the second picture posted in the list states that it’s a special edition in remembrance of Osamu Tezuka. If still not convinced, go and google “우주소년 아톰”, and find out who they claim the author is.
And about the rip-off of motorbikes in the first post. http://nandakorea.sakura.ne.jp/html/bike.html
. It seems like this is a used bike company that changes used ones to look alike Yamaha or Hoandas. I have never heard of this company, and it seems like they started this pretty recently. They claims that it’s not illegal because both Japanese companies didn’t register their designs in Korea, it’s still a shamless thing to do nonetheless. They can go to hell as far as I’m concerned.
I think most of them are either licensed or imported rather than rip-off. Both Honda and Suzuki have sold their bikes for long long time in Korea. The only exception is “YAMUDA”, which is in fact a rip-off of Yamaha and Honda (thus, Yamuda
Anyway, I agree that there are a lot of rip-offs and a lot of those in the list are really some examples of those. But the whole tone of this site seems to be based on a bias against Korea rather than objective findings of the blog owner. If he wanted to find the truth about it rather than trying to find “evidences” of his biased assumption, he could have easily found out about Astro boy (or even if it’s not his, motorcycle case).
I know there are a lot of idiotic Koreans and their equally idioitic claims. But what country doesn’t have those? Korea has more of them? It’s possible, but who knows? Inferiority/superiority complex? Maybe, there’s some truth to it. But, again, who doesn’t show some of that after decades of foreign occupancy? Again, I’m not saying it’s justifiable, but at least it’s understandable.
But isn’t it a little ridiculous for Japanese, the abuser who provided the source of that complex, or paranoid or whatever, to blame Koreans for that? I heard that the owner of this blog is not a Japanese, but since he’s tying to compare Japan and Korean to criticize Korea, I think the effect on Koreans are similar. And on top of that, the claims are rather biased than objective.
I don’t know why he (the blogger) got this biased view of Korea, but I don’t (and don’t want to) believe that it’s his intention. He may have had some bad experiences and/or got exposed to the information that shows bad sides of Korea, much like many Koreans have with regards to Japan. It’s unfortunate that he seems to follow exactly the same steps as those biased Korean whom he seem to hate so much.
THis post just want to call us koreans ” the copycats”
Hey, I’m glad Koreans are good copycats (except the Northeners who have finally figured out how to build nuclear weapons, 60 years after we first did). My imitation Hermes sandals are wearing quite well.
Is this another citicism and insult to the koreans?
Nope, the quality is actually quite good.
As I know Haitai or Orion (I don’t remember) started chocopie in Korea and then Lotte. And the first to start chocopie in Japan wasn’t Lotte? Wasn’t peppero started by Lotte in Japan? On http//photo.jijisama.org/pakuti01.html I saw some things that were irrelevant like Kia Sorento, Terracan (maybe), Tiburon, Tacuma (maybe), Dolly (that green dragon) and maybe others if I’m not wrong. I don’t know why criticim against my country is stronger than others countries that do the same or worse.
Never mind my post. I didn’t read everything carefully. I think Korea and Japan copied each other.
I am interested in when and how Japan copied Korea.
You are wrong. Morinaga was the first to start chocopie(Angel Pie) in Japan and it was in 1961. As far as I know, Orion’s chocopie was started in 70’s. And Peppeo was started by Lotte Korea. That’s why it’s not sold by Lotte in Japan because it’s obvious to people here that Glico’s Pockey is the original.
I recall reading that this movie was partly shot at Himeji Castle.
Is that why a tae kwon do site like this (http://www.natkd.com/) may have chosen to display Himeji Castle, a genuine Japanese castle, on its top page?
A queer choice for representing Japanese culture in terms of karate, as the samurais inhabiting the caslte are masters of kendo and judo, not karate. I don’t rememeber seeing the note on Himeji Castle when I first saw this page via 2-channel, they must have received some complaint mail.
By the way, I found this article on tae kwon do quite interesting.
http://www.bstkd.com/CAPENER.1.HTM
I know many at 2-channel ridicule Koreans for ripping-off karate, but in any culture, copying (initially) and integration of outside cultures into existing ones are the norm. Karate came from Ryukyu martial arts, which in turn came from China. The problem, I believe, is whether you give proper credit (and in case of modern licensed products, the fee) to the original.
MIka,
If Lotte were to release Peppeo in Japan, I think it would be disastrous to their image as a respectable company, even if they won a lawsuit by Glico, since rip-offs as seen as a 2nd-rate thing.
Katz,
Korea is now an economically successful country and receiving more attention, and so more people simply expect her to act accordingly. China can pirate foreign products without getting morally bashed becasue many simply don’t have high expectations for China. Honestly, do you want Korea to remain on that level?
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RGM-79,
You mean common noun, not pronoun. Kinutofu is a common noun.