In the early days of Occidentalism, I would reply to Korean commenters that commented in Korean in their language. However I have not done that for along time, until the other day when a Korean commenter over at the marmots hole was advocating the expulsion of foreigners from Korea, writing that foreigners have “drug parties” and “sleep with Korean girls” (ie, rape) at these parties.

For evidence he offered up an article of an Irish English teacher being busted for marijuana possession, and a foreigners party in Seoul that caused the so-called ‘English Spectrum scandal’.

He was writing in Korean, and dogbert and I answered him in Korean. I think I made excellent points that totally debunked his argument. However, now he is no longer commenting about it, and that made me remember why I do not debate with Koreans in Korean anymore – it is because once you have made a excellent point, they disappear, and you never get any satisfaction for the time and effort that it took writing in what is for me a third language.

Here is the exchange. I think it will be interesting for those that can understand Korean. The Korean is uhoooooo, I am using my nom de plume ‘shakuhachi’, and dogbert is dogbert of course.

uhoooooo

황당한 소리들만 하고 있네.
죄형법정주의 몰라요?
한국법에서도 포르노 보는 것은 죄가 아닙니다.
한국에서 포르노 보는 것이 죄라고 도대체 누구에게서 들은 겁니까?

포르노물 찍어서 올리는 것 자체는 범죄가 캐나다법으로 범죄가 아니지만, 그 사람은 하드코어 포르노물을 누구나 접근하여 볼 수 있게 하였습니다. 캐나다법으로도 명백한 범죄입니다. 대체 누가 범죄 아니라고 하던가요? 법전 좀 찾아보고 말을 하든가.

사이버 테러니 그러는데 신체의 은밀한 부분까지 누구나 보라고 오히려 광고하고 다녔는데, 무슨 사이버 테러입니까.

여기는 제대로 된 학교에서 제대로 된 교육을 받은 외국인은 오지 않는 겁니까.

덧글이 이렇게나 달리는 글이라면 최소한의 사전 조사 정도는 한 글이어야 할텐데, 이렇게 엉터리 소리나 하고 있고…
제발 공부 좀 하세요. 허튼 소리 하지 말고.

dogbert

건방 좀 그만 떨었으면 합니다. 당신 모르시는 남들의 교육에 대해서 신경 쓰지 말고 VANK으로 다시 돌아가시죠.

uhoooooo

@dogbertt:

건방 떨지 않게 좀 해주지 그러십니까.
기본의 기본도 안 되어 있으니 이런 반응 나오지요.

포르노 보는 것이 불법이라느니, 같이 어울리는 한국인 무리들에게서 들었나. ^^ 혹시 한국인들에게서 들었다면 그 한국인들 수준도 참…^^ 역시 수준 맞춰서 끼리끼리 노는구나.^^

요즘 캘리포니아 주 경찰들이 매춘 하는 여성들 잡느라
바쁘더군요. 가끔 할리우드 스타들 매춘하다 걸려서 매스콤에 나오죠. 야외에서 음란한 짓으로 걸렸나. 휴 그랜트. 더 많은데 대표적인 한 사람만 들죠.

포르노를 찍고, 포르노 사이트를 운영하고, 어린이들마저 볼 수 있게 샘플비디오를 개방했으며, 그 샘플비디오들은 하드코어였습니다. 그러나, 불구속에 고작 벌금 정도 나올 예정이랍니다. 앞의 부분은 뒤져봐야겠지만, 제가 말한 이상은 되지 않을 겁니다. 미국이나 캐나다였다면 이것으로 그치지 않았을 것입니다. 휠씬 더 시끄러웠을 거라구요. 세상에 하드코어 포르노 배우하면서 영어 강사라니.
안 그래도 캐나다 출신의 마약파티하는 영어강사들, 한국 와서 한국 여자들과 돌려 자는 영어강사들 때문에 말이 많은데.

shakuhachi

“안 그래도 캐나다 출신의 마약파티하는 영어강사들, 한국 와서 한국 여자들과 돌려 자는 영어강사들 때문에 말이 많은데.”

uhoooooo, can we get some proof of this statment? I mean, can you show a pattern of this happening? Or even happening once?

주장에 대한 증거가 있습니까? 증거가 없으면 단지 인종차별 망언이에요.

uhoooooo

@shakuhachi:
인종 차별적이지는 않고 특정국에 대한 편견이 있군요. 인정합니다. 열받은 상태에서 나온 과도한 발언이었습니다.
최근에 벌어진 초등학교 마약 사건의 당사자인 원어민 영어교사는 아일랜드이었습니다. 하도 캐나다인 말을 많이 듣다 보니 일어난 혼동이었습니다. ^^;;; ㅅ깊이 사과드리면서 너그러운 마음으로 이해해주시기를 바랍니다.
그러나, ‘캐나다인’ 부분을 제외하고는 그 증거는 많은 것으로 보입니다. 아래를 참고하시길.

@dogbertt
VANK가 뭔가 하였더니 수상한 사이트 이름 내지 단체 이름이군요. 관심없는 곳.

@ all

http://media.paran.com/snews/newssearch.php?Query=%BF%B5%BE%EE+%B8%B6% BE%E0&dir=

위에나 아니면 코리아헤럴드 같은 곳 참고하시고.
한국법은 미국법이나 캐나법, 영국법 등에 비하여 훨씬 경하고 경하게 집행이 되고 있습니다. 캐나다 등에서라면 징역을 살 일에 대해서 한국에서라고 마구 말씀들 하시는데 듣기 불편하군요. 한국에 대한 욕으로 받아들여서가 아니라 사실에 근거하지 않은 판단이라서 그런 겁니다.
http://dailytelegraph.news.com.au/story.jsp?sectionid=1268&storyid=289 9441
하나의 예입니다.
이것 말고도 많은데 저의 예전 블로그가 고물이라서 검색이 귀찮군요. (꼭 이렇게 예를 들어가면서 해야 하나 짜증도 납니다. 당신들도 신문 읽으실텐데 말입니다.)

제가 일본 소설을 하나 읽었는데, 기억을 더듬어 보면, 개인의 집에서 대마초 비스무리 한 걸 피우고 노는데(나중에 섹스로 이러지든 어떻든) 경찰이 들이닥쳐서 체포해가더군요. 죄목이 대마초 그런 걸이 아니라 다른 것이었던 같은데, 이 부분에 대해서 작가가 정확하게 기술해 줄 리가 없으니 넘기고, 여튼 개인의 집에서 일어난 일이라는데 그렇답니다.

눈요기로 한국의 한 클럽입니다.
http://www.law4u.net/tech/board.php?board=trivia&command=body&no=19

캐나다에서 돌아온 포르노 영어강사에 대한 글입니다. 새로울 내용은 없습니다.

http://www.law4u.net/tech/board.php?board=trivia&command=body&no=2

dogbert

Uhuru, I’m glad to hear that my assumption was wrong and you have no association with or interest in VANK. Just as I have no interest in Canada or teaching English to Koreans. Or taking drugs, for that matter.

However, my assumption is understandable, given that VANK is a group of Koreans, like you, who are convinced that non-Koreans “lack education” and “misunderstand Korea’s special situation”.

shakuhachi

“인종 차별적이지는 않고 특정국에 대한 편견이 있군요. 인정합니다. 열받은 상태에서 나온 과도한 발언이었습니다.
최근에 벌어진 초등학교 마약 사건의 당사자인 원어민 영어교사는 아일랜드이었습니다. 하도 캐나다인 말을 많이 듣다 보니 일어난 혼동이었습니다. ^^;;; ㅅ깊이 사과드리면서 너그러운 마음으로 이해해주시기를 바랍니다.
그러나, ‘캐나다인’ 부분을 제외하고는 그 증거는 많은 것으로 보입니다. 아래를 참고하시길.”

I looked the link you provided, and saw the case you described. However, this case involving an Irish man is a simple case of drug possession. In your original comment you wrote that the English teachers have drug parties and imply drugs are used to sleep with Korean women. However, nothing you have provided has shown that to be happening.

uhoooooo씨, 참고 린크가 참고에 되었습니다만, 역시 마약 파티와 전혀 관계가 없었습니다. 기리고 한국인 여성을 마약 파티에 초대 하여 , 섹스 시키는 증거도 없습니다. 마약 하는 것은 불법 행위 라고 누구나 인정 하죠. 그러나 한국인 여성과 동의로 섹스 하는 것은 합법 입니다.

많은 외국인은 한국인 여성과 동의로 교제하고 있습니다. 마약이나 강간으로 섹스 시키는 외국인은 정말로 극소수의 사람이지요. 한국인 남성이 하는 성폭행 보다 많다고 생각하십니까?

정말로 답장을 읽고 싶습니다.

The other example you provide of the woman doing the porno is a Korean Canadian (a Korean immigrant to Canada), in Korea with a visa only available to people that are of the Korean race. You could say that she was in Korea because Korea has a racial policies favoring those that are ethnically Korean over people of other races. Also, it is funny that you were talking about “Canadians” and pointing fingers at specific races, but when it came to the ethnic Korean you started talking about “native speakers”. I mean, come on!

uhoooooo

마약 관련해서는 여기, http://news.naver.com/search/search.naver?where=nns&rcsection=&query=% B8%B6%BE%E0+%BF%B5%BE%EE+%B0%AD%BB%E7 ,
넘치는데요. 대마초나 기타 환각물질까지 검색하면 더 나올텐데 귀찮네요, 이미 위의 링크에서도 자료 충분해 보이구요. -_-; . 제가, 그 아리리쉬 한 사람을 이전의 다른 마약사건이나 좋지 않은 사건의 캐나다인들과 관련하여서 잘못 연결지어 저지른 실수라고 말씀드렸습니다. 위의 ‘캐나다인들’은 ‘영미권 국가에서 온 사람들’로 고치겠습니다. 물론, 그 중에서도 일부의 사람들이지요. 어쨋든 영미권에서 넘어온 한국계나 영미권 사람들들이 마약하는 일로 걸린 일이 꽤 보이지 않습니까.

강간,은 왜 나오는지,
여자 문제야 이것, http://www.law4u.net/tech/board.php?board=trivia&command=body&no=19 . 이 정도로 충분하지 않나요?
한국남자들은 오지 못하게 하고 한국여성들만 입장시켜서는 저런다면서요? 당연히, 친분 있는 아니면 잔신부름이나 아니면 파티를 주관하는 몇 한국인은 입장하겠지요. 미국에서 한국 남자들이 저래 봐. 무슨 일이 일어날지 -_-;
이것도 너무 말이 많아서 탈인데, 증거를 적시하라고 다그치시니 입이 안 떨어지네요. 그 쪽 돌아가는 사정은 저보다 휠씬 잘 아실 것 같은데.

인종차별이 아니고 출신국가에 대한 선입관이랄까 편견이 작용한 것이고 이에 대한 해명은 이미 위에서 하였습니다.
그리고, 혹여 (인종이 아닌 출신국에 의한)선입관이 제게 있다 하여도, 이미 백인 남성들은 한국인들, 특히 한국 여성들에게서 충분하다 못해 지나치다 할 환대를 받고 있으니, 그에 대한 약간의 반동이 있는 것은 지렛대의 원리상 당연한 일 아니겠습니까.

@dogbertt

“당신 모르시는 남들의 교육에 대해서 신경 쓰지 말고””
like you, who are convinced that non-Koreans “lack education” and “misunderstand Korea’s special situation”.

===>

O.K.
너무 얼토당토 아니한 말씀을 먼저 하시고 그 얼토당토 않은 말을 기초호 하여 글타래가 이어지고 있으니 제가 상기와 같은 반응을 하지 않을 수 있었겠습니까. 그런데, ‘한국에 대한 오해’ 부분은 관심사가 아닌데, 정말로.

요런 인물, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Jennings
그 외 많은 인물이 있었는데 어찌 한국 거주 외국인들을 괄세할 수가 있나요^^;

그러나, 진짜 정말 열받게도 한국의 형은 미국이나 영국에 비하여 가볍습니다. 거기다 조금 우는 척 하고 잉.잉.잉.거리고 여자면 세상 정말 살기 좋은 나라입니다. 물론, 어떤 가난한 최소하의 자존심을 지키려는 어쩌다 범죄의 길로 한 번 들어선 사람에게는 가혹하지만요. 그러니, 제발 남의 나라 법에 대해서 헛소리 좀 그만 ~~~~

dogbert

I’ll tell you what, uhuru.

When Koreans living in the U.S. stop working as whores by the thousands, stop slaughtering bears for their gall bladders, and stop being traitors (Michael Chang, Robert Kim), we foreigners will stop inviting all-to-willing Korean women to party in Hongdae.

Deal?

uhoooooo

자꾸 엉뚱한 말씀을.
전혀 다른 상황이잖습니까.

한국인들이 미국에 가서 일반적으로 그토록이나 환대받던가요?
홍대에서 한국 남자 오지 마라 한국 여자들만 와라 그러고서
서양인 남성이면 xx하는 한국 여자들 불러놓고 저게 뭡니까.

–;;; 사진 좀 보세요. 당신이 어느 나라 사람인지 모르겠지만 어느 나라든간에 본국에 있을 때 저렇게 놀았습니까.

미국에 가서 범법행위를 한 사람들은 그 나라 법에 따라서 충분히 벌을 받겠지요. 미국 FBI가 열심히 잡고 있다면서요. 누가 거기에 대해서 이의를 제기히던가요. 그들이 미국 법에 대하하여 “(있지도 않은 미국법을 가지고)이런 멍청한 법이 다 있네” 누가 우리를 신고하는 거야 이랬다던가요. 미국 정부를 싸잡아서 비난했다던가요. 그리고, 위에서 당신들은 캐나다인 포르노 배우 출신 강사에 대하여 우호적인 것 같은데.

dogbert

“홍대에서 한국 남자 오지 마라 한국 여자들만 와라 그러고서
서양인 남성이면 xx하는 한국 여자들 불러놓고 저게 뭡니까.”

제가 올린 글에 그런 의미는 없다니깐요. 영어를 제대로 해석할 줄 모르시나 싶어서 제가 앞으로 한국어로 답을 써야겠네요.

shakuhachi

“강간,은 왜 나오는지,
여자 문제야 이것, http://www.law4u.net/tech/board.php?board=trivia&command=body&no=19 . 이 정도로 충분하지 않나요?
한국남자들은 오지 못하게 하고 한국여성들만 입장시켜서는 저런다면서요? 당연히, 친분 있는 아니면 잔신부름이나 아니면 파티를 주관하는 몇 한국인은 입장하겠지요. 미국에서 한국 남자들이 저래 봐. 무슨 일이 일어날지 -_-;”

그 파티에는 한국 남자 금지 아니었습니다. 한국 남성을 자유스럽게 입장 시켰어요. 게다가 한국 남성도 그 파티에서 재미 있게 시간을 보냈다고 들었습니다.

사진을 잘 보면 작게 한국 남성의 얼굴을 볼 수 있습니다. 한국 남성이 있고, 참가하고, 놀았습니다. 물론 인종의 혼란을 시키고 싶은 네티즌이 그 사실을 알리고 싶지 않습니다. 그리고 그 파티의 내용에 관해서는, 네티즌등은 “섹스 파티” 라고 설명했는데 그 것은 왜곡된 내용 입니다. 실은 사진에 있는 여성들이 파티의 근무하는 여성 이었습니다. 외설인 행위는 이벤트의 전략이며 한국 여성만 아니라 다국의 서양 여성도 참가했습니다. 이 주장의 검증에 대해서 다시 사진을 보세요.

키포인트는 한국 남성도 외국 남성도 모두 있고, 한국 여성과 외국 여성이 남성의 성욕망의 대상이 되었습니다. 어떤 나라라도 섹스에 어필하면 티켓을 팔려 자르는군요. 그러나 한국의 네티즌이나 매스컴은 내용을 왜곡해 국민을 자극 시키고 당신 처럼 분노하시는 사람이 많겠지요.

다시 물어보지만, 정말로 외국 남성 하는 성폭행은 한국 남성 하는 성폭행 보다 자주 있는 현상이라고 생각합니까? 특별히 외국 남성을 지적하니까 구체적인 답장을 원합니다.

I hope someone besides me and dogbert is reading this, because there is an interesting discussion going on here.

That is it. I made the salient points about the issue, and then the Korean commenter runs away from the discussion. This does not just happen occasionally, but almost always happens with Korean commenters commenting in Korean. That is why I am not going to debate in Korean anymore.

Posted by Matt, filed under Language, Random. Date: December 22, 2006, 9:58 pm | 59 Comments »

59 Responses

  1. Matt Says:

    I’ve checked out the archives and it seems the same Anti-Korea people are here–Ponta, Garlic-Breath, Tomato, Gerry-Bevers, Darin, Two-Cents, etc.

    Whereas the Pro-Korean Posters: Kushibo, YoungRocco, Dogbert, etc, have all been banned for some trumped up reason or another.

    You ARE YoungRocco. All the other people you claim are banned have not been. You have been banned for trolling. In addition to your AkihitoMojito account here, you also have one called ‘CasinoRoyale’. You, sir, are a troll. You were banned for lying about being silenced, and you are lying again about other people being banned. The fact is that EVERYONE knows that the comments section on Occidentalism is freewheeling, and does not ban people for expressing their opinion.

  2. AkihitoMojito Says:

    Matt:

    You ARE YoungRocco

    See what I mean? Silencing dissent. Why am I being accused of being someone else?

    All the other people you claim are banned have not been

    Hey, all i know is that they don’t post on this sight anymore. I assume they were banned.

    The fact is that EVERYONE knows that the comments section on Occidentalism is freewheeling

    Which is why you ban people, right? Or I mean, which is why dissenters “disappear.”

    you also have one called ‘CasinoRoyale’

    Looks like someone has gone 화병! I have no idea who ‘CasinoRoyale’ is.

  3. Matt Says:

    YoungRocco, when we ban people we make a big deal of it with plenty of warnings. In your case, it tooks months of warnings about your trolling before Darin banned you. Nobody ever just “disappears”. That is not what we do at Occidentalism. Good bye again, troll.

  4. Calagatha Says:

    Eh,AKito just what the hell are you talking about?
    Have you seen how obnoxious Young Rocco’s post were?
    He tried to act all witty,classy & sarcastic, but his comments were merely transparent & easy to see through.
    I have to admit though, I wish he was still around.
    Rocco’s posts were quite entertaining.
    Kushibo had multiple accounts, where he pretended to be two or three different personas. That alone constitutes a ban IMO.
    What are you implying by “where’s the debate”
    It’s quite obvious that posters such as Ponta, Gerry-Bevers, & Darin usually provide sources & written documents to support their proported facts.
    Just look at WJK’s posts. He doesn’t seem to want or even know how to back up his claims. From a 3rd point perspective his posts comes off as hearsay.

    Damn why is it that I’m seeing the same exact habit that I saw when I last visited this page?
    Why is it that posters such as yourself, tell one side of the story,but intentionally leave out the other.
    I love how you make posters such as Ponta or Gerry out to sound like “evil fascists” whereas you give the impression that individuals such as Young rocco or Kushibo were nothing more than innocent victims voicing their opinion.

    I lurk here all the time, & I usually refrain from posting because I don’t want to be pulled into the circus that generates with every Korea related blog post.
    Ponta IMO is one of the kindest,most sincere posters in this blog.
    I’d go as far to say that he is a typical Japanese.
    He’s humble, almost too humble.
    But I prefer humble over extreme ignorance & arrogance anyday.
    Personally I doubt that you’ll get banned for simply having a different view point.
    Aki,unlike most “pro korea” posters…
    I can actually see your point & your posts are easy to understand,
    Most “pro korea” posters are so emotionally distraught that their posts often come out incomprehensible, & most often quite comical.
    Tis why I view this blog as a comedy site.
    You can always be sure that somebody in the comments section is going to say something completely outragoues & illogical.

    (“Pro Korea” is in quatations,because I do not see this as an “Us or them” affair.
    I’m not pro Japanese or Korean, but I tend to side with the Japanese point of view,because their arguments make more sense.
    Simply put they do more than just whine & shout.)

    I will admit though I do find it odd that Individuals such as Chonko are allowed to spew his racist drivel whereas most “Pro Korea” posters are not allowed the same privelage.

    BTW Chonko I actually agree with most of your posts.
    Hell I’m sick & tired of Koreans constantly boasting about how beautiful there ethnicity is.
    When quite frankly most of them look average at best.
    The majority wear way too much make up.
    I prefer Japanese women,because some of them could seriously pass for Northern European.

    I’m just saying that it’s a bit unfair that posters such as Chonko are allowed to post in such a hateful manner,but Korean posters aren’t allowed the same privelage.

  5. Calagatha Says:

    I won’t comment on your understanding of Korea being colonized by Japan, because it seems to me that is what the Japanese teach their children. And it is most disagreeable. Actually, we’ve been warned about your line of talk. It’s not anything new I heard. It just confirms the Japanese view.

    With your logic I guess that implies that Mike Rogers is Japanese.
    http://www.lewrockwell.com/rogers/rogers206.html
    Most of what Mike Rogers wrote directly coincides with what I believe, as it sounds more logical.
    Has it ever occurred to you that your “truth” may not be the end all be all of the “truth”
    In general the “truth” is just a commonly accepted consensus by the masses.
    If enough individuals believe in a lie, that lie will eventually become “truth”
    The only way to discern truth is through a process of events which involves examining many different sources pretaining to the same subject, & weeding out all the fat.

    Reason to hate forever? I don’t hate forever. In fact, I am at relative peace with most individuals who are Japanese that I know of. I did notice a difference between a few Japanese who are from Japan who are more guarding and rude towards Koreans, whereas 4th, 5th generation US Japanese are just like anyone in the US.

    Just what do you mean by “Japanese who are from Japan who are more guarding and rude towards Koreans.” From what I’ve seen most Japanese nationals tend to be more cautious around Chinese.
    They usually don’t even notice Koreans.
    (That was until the 2002 world cup.)
    IMO you’re basicaclly just parroting alledged accounts that may or may have not happened.
    I used to live in Japan (Chugoku area) & I’ll tell you straight up,
    before BoA became popular…
    The only thing the general Japanese public knew about Korea was Kimchi

    However you’re correct in saying “Just like everybody else in the U.S.”
    Meaning they are completly ignorant of current affairs ocurring within the Asian hemisphere.
    Do you even listen to yourself when you write statements such as this?
    A 4th,5th generation Japanese American is basically an American more or less. Japanese on the outside,but their train of thought,culture & genreal vibe is mostly American.
    Individuals of Caucasian heritage who travel abroad understand & comprehend more about Asian poltical affairs than most Asian Americans do.
    Asian Americans in general are only acustomed to the Chinese point of view of Asian politics.
    Hell most Asian Americans still believe that Iris Chang’s
    “Rape of Nanking” is a historical account.
    That to me speaks volumes of how ignorant the average Asian American is concerning manners that occur in Asia.

    $rth,5th generation Japanese Americans are the same as a 3rd,4th generation Koreans in Japan.
    Yes they may be Korean on the outside,but spiritualy they are Japanese. (Referring to way they think & their train of thought.)

    I have more of a problem with the Japanese political elite who still controls Japanese politics every year, the LDP. You can’t deny that almost all of them have roots back to the Empire. Their kids and grandkids act the same.

    Ah another alledged fact that I’m supposed to take seriuosly. So tell me part-nah. Who is this Japanese political elite that you are referring to?
    I hope it’s not the Right wing? I am getting so sick & tired of that being parroted over & over again…
    http://www.lewrockwell.com/rogers/rogers156.html
    (The above link is actualy an article about a comedian,but it’s quite an informative blog post.)

    That, my friend, continues the hate on your part. Koizumi in particular abandoned at least surface politeness.

    Quite funny, I never really got the impression that Koizumi is a “evil fascist fucking jap”.
    I mean come on, this is the same guy who opened for the museum of the Japanese rock star, Hide.
    http://vampirefreaks.com/cult.php?c=Pink_Spider

    I suppose you’re referring to Yasukuni shrine.
    A friggin’ place that Japanese PMs have been visiting for years,but all of a sudden it’s now “conviently” treated as a criminal felony all due to a couple of misconceptions that most Korean,Chinese simply don’t want or are unable to understand.
    What is it about Yasukuni that y’all can’t understand?
    There are no war dead buried there, only souls.
    Once again I’m going to post a link to that blog.

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/rogers/rogers188.html

    (It’s not my fault,this guy is one of the few people on the internet that I’ve seen who actually knows what he’s talking about.
    Although like most people he sometimes makes mistakes. Referring to his “Sengoku” post.)

    I’ll say this. Japanese girls need to work with their facial cosmetic surgeons more. There. You asked for it. I wasn’t gonna say it. But you asked for it. You deserve it.

    Somehow I sincerely doubt that your comments are offending anybody.
    When I read this it just made me chuckle,because it looked so random.
    Tell me just why are we bringing up the subject of women again?
    During a convo that has nothing to do with it.
    BTW don’t even try to act like you weren’t trying to activate a smear campaign through you website by claiming that all Japanese porn is rape.
    I agree with Ponta’s logic, in order to come to such a conclusion one must’ve have spent some ample time.
    Besides pornstars like Ran Asakawa look mighty fine to me.
    BTW look up Kokeshi,Fanta dream,99b carribean I’m sure you’ll find something that you’ll like.
    Like Chonko said…

    BTW, a Korean suggesting that another nationality is in need of plastic surgery is like the Marquis De Sade advising others on child rearing. What a laugh..especially when 90% of the entire population of Korea relies on plastic surgery.

    As irritated & racist as he sounds the bitter irony that I saw when you made your comment rang true to my ears,because I was thinking the same exact thing as Chonko.
    In fact it was this same irony that made moi chuckle in the first place.

  6. Matt Says:

    Chonko promised me that he would tone it down, but I see that he has not. I know he has the ability to post comments sans the racial abuse and animal references. I have deleted the offending post anyway.

    Chonko, would you PLEASE keep it clean? When people that happen to agree with the thrust of what you are saying like Calagatha say they are uncomfortable with the way you are expressing yourself, that should tell you something. You know I am a tolerant person, which is why I ask and ask time and time again before taking action.

  7. surabaya johnny Says:

    I find this post and the pitter-patter of one WJK to be a wonderful example of self-exemplifation. The post begins with a topic that is not entirely complimentary of Koreans and their forensic “procilivities.” Of course, since the comments are not wrapped with the thoroughly non-aesthetically pleasing Korean flag they must be contested. In rushes our hero to the defense of his tribe. He commences with an ad hominem in effect accusing Matt of being a “paper Eichmann,” procedes to some racial considerations, while, of course, totally ignoring the issue at hand.

    Next he manages to bring up Unit 731 and Korean Taiwan connection. And let’s not forget the obligatory feint toward impugning the morals of Jap women. Some give and take with Ponta continues and after Ponta out-argues and out-logics him he counters with name-calling and general pussified snittiness. What an embarrassing peninsular aborigine!

    PS: Could someone please comment on this article where it seems that President Roh refers to American GIs as “niggers” (“미국 껌디 껌디 뒤에 매달려서 형님 형님 . . .)

    http://www.independent.co.kr/gomzip01/board.php?cate=issue&mode=view&id=indeold&no=115474

  8. thor56 Says:

    I had similar experiences on Japan Today.
    Koreans always “disappeared” in the middle of discussion.
    Then they secretly posted replies in 3 to 6 months later.
    The posts were usually like “No comment anymore? I won!”

  9. GarlicBreath Says:

    Brilliant points surabaya johnny. At some point you can count on people like WJK or JK or BFK to bring up hitler or the holocost deniers and assocate them with anybody who doen’t worship Korea.

    If you are not entirely complimentary of Koreans or Korea then you must be a racist hitler loving korea hater.

    Just look at guys who scream racism at anybody who doesn’t grovel about Korea.