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AMPONTAN’s analysis of PM Abe’s visit to the US

April 30th, 2007 . by Matt

Ampontan again hits out at the American media for being shallow and missing the point of Prime Minister Abe’s visit to America. A must read.


14 Responses to “AMPONTAN’s analysis of PM Abe’s visit to the US”

  1. comment number 1 by: stannn

    AMPONTAN’s writing is very helpful to understand the japanese rightwinger’s mindset.

    So basically PM said essentially the same thing in March. And Congressman Honda misunderstood what PM Abe said, right?

    Well, if AMPONTAN is right, then president Bush also seem to mistakenly fall for PM’s deliberate combination of words.
    In other words, the US president was fooled by the Japanese PM. 🙁

    Anyway, is it just Abe or japanese in general not to articulate clearly when apologizing?

  2. comment number 2 by: ponta

    As one of the commenter wrote over there, I also envy his writing skills.
    I am not sure he is right-winger or not.
    I wonder how Korean people are using the term;it seems they are just using it when they disagree.
    I am not sure either if Bush was fooled.
    Bush mentioned Kono’s statement, Abe stands by it. Bush understands it. How is Bush supposed to be fooled?
    The point is for international politics, this issue is relatively small.

    It is up to a few comfort women whether they like Japanese apology and the funds, but Japan did what was due. Comfort women have remedy from Korean government and Japanese government.

    The rest is a political nitpicking for a political show.
    Honda will get the credit from his Korean constituents.
    Korea will keep ranting whatever Japan does.
    The more she talks about the issue of comfort women , the more people will realize what the problem really is….endless nitpicking Japanese apology while ignoring the Korean own problem of comfort women victimised by Korean society.
    The resolution is unbinding.
    ….So the best attitude is just to focus on what is really urgent and important. Bush and Abe are more or less on the right track. I think that is the point.
    History and Korean pride seems to be Korean priority, though.

  3. comment number 3 by: goda

    >In other words, the US president was fooled by the Japanese PM.

    I don’t think so.
    President Bush realized all thing and all backbroud of this issue, especially about strategy of Anti-Japanese countries.

  4. comment number 4 by: madboots

    hmmm..If only I had at least a half of his writing skills… The poor compatiblity betweenn Japanese and English always works as a barrier when we try to state our opinions in front of foreigners.

  5. comment number 5 by: stannn

    ponta,

    I read other writings of Amportan and he/she seems to be supportive of japanese rightwinger ‘s ideas.
    I feel that japanese should improve their english writing skills or foreigners should improve japanese reading skills(between the lines, right?).

    Anyway,what is really impressive is that japanese rightwingers seem to be so convinced themselves of their logics that their arguments would also work in the international community which apparently did fail miserably. Their arguments about comfort women(no proof of systematic coercions in recruting but with the proof of systematic settting up and management of comfort women system by japanese military, so no legal responsibility for the comfort women and saying I am sorry for some unfortunate victims) sounds like avoiding responsibilities to the foreigners.

    Well, the more japanese brought up this comfort women issue, the more people would be concerned that there’s problems in japan’s attitude toward wartime crimes.

    So the best attitude for japan is “clearly”
    remove any grounds for suspicion so that no more “false” accusation is possible.

    I think japan and korea have more urgent and important issues to work on together. And this historical issue should’t bother them anymore.(I think most koreans like most japanese are getting tired of this historical issues.) It doesm’t help either country.

    I hope next japanese and korean leaderships can work together so that they can restore friendly relationships and korean government can help japan to solve the japanese abductees problems and both of them work together with the US to stabilize the east asian region.

  6. comment number 6 by: General Tiger

    It gives me a warm feeling to read something that condemns someone for being blind, yet is blind itself.

    Of course, this does show the other side, and I give it some praise for it.

  7. comment number 7 by: madboots

    You said it, stannn.
    I agree almost entirely with you.
    But I would think you should know more about Japan and Korea.

    First, Japan and the Japanese are ready to get along with Korea. Japan has no reason to fight against Korea, the people are so fed up with Korean complaints, though. Meanwhile, Anti-Japanism has been one of national policies in Korea. Koreans seems to be unable to live a day without critisizing Japan to satisfy their sense of superiority.
    Second, there are even more abductees from Korean than those from Japan. Korean government, however, is somewhat reluctant to resolve the abduction issue for some reason while Japanese government applied a hard-line policy including economic sanctions against North Korea only to resolve the issue.

  8. comment number 8 by: General Tiger

    Second, there are even more abductees from Korean than those from Japan. Korean government, however, is somewhat reluctant to resolve the abduction issue for some reason while Japanese government applied a hard-line policy including economic sanctions against North Korea only to resolve the issue.

    Just to clarify: is the first “Korean” in that sentence SK?

  9. comment number 9 by: madboots

    General Tiger,
    Oh, Yes.
    I meant to say “South Korean.”

  10. comment number 10 by: madboots

    *Oops*
    It’s not “South Korean” but “South Korea.”
    Sorry.

  11. comment number 11 by: ponta

    stannn
    Thanks.
    I always appreciate a reasonable response.

    I read other writings of Amportan and he/she seems to be supportive of japanese rightwinger ’s ideas.

    I am still not sure what you are trying to convey by Japanese rightwingers.

    Anyway,what is really impressive is that japanese rightwingers seem to be so convinced themselves of their logics that their arguments would also work in the international community which apparently did fail miserably.

    It depends on what you mean by rightwinger’s logic.
    But I surely agree Abe made a big mistake in the way he presented his argument.

    Their arguments about comfort women(no proof of systematic coercions in recruiting but with the proof of systematic setting up and management of comfort women system by japanese military, so no legal responsibility for the comfort women and saying I am sorry for some unfortunate victims) sounds like avoiding responsibilities to the foreigners.

    If that is the message people got from journalism, then journalism surely had succeeded in its agenda.
    It should be rather;
    I am sorry for unfortunate victims.
    Japan provided infrastructure for the brothels
    in which women suffered in spite of the fact Japanese police tried to regulate illegal brokers.
    In view of political ground and moral ground, we set up the fund.
    In addition, to strengthen our effort to protect women’s right, we are going to set up the institution/foundation for the woman victimised in Japan, Korea, China. As we all know, even after WWⅡ, many women have been
    the victims of their own society. We are going to study and publicize it and help them in a plausible way……

    Well, the more japanese brought up this comfort women issue, the more people would be concerned that there’s problems in japan’s attitude toward wartime crimes.

    I don’t think so. I think the more accurate knowledge prevails, the more people understand what the real issue.

    So the best attitude for japan is “clearly”
    remove any grounds for suspicion so that no more “false” accusation is possible.

    I think more and more Japanese are getting used to this history bashing and since whatever Japanese politicians or private citizens say, Korea will not stop anti-Japan-ism, demanding the apology they have no intention to accept, it is pointless to take the bashing seriously. But I think Japan should send the accurate information.
    For instance, I was surprised that many people on Korean blogosphere didn’t know Korean brokers were involved in most cases in the peninsula, and they were arrested by Japanese police.
    I was surprised people didn’t know the difference between 挺身隊(female workers’ brigade) and comfort women.
    I was surprised many people didn’t know Abe stood by Kono’s statement from the time he took office.

    I think japan and korea have more urgent and important issues to work on together. And this historical issue should’t bother them anymore.

    I agree.

    (I think most koreans like most japanese are getting tired of this historical issues.)

    I hope so.

    I hope next japanese and korean leaderships can work together so that they can restore friendly relationships and korean government can help japan to solve the japanese abductees problems and both of them work together with the US to stabilize the east asian region.

    In this regard, I am very pessimistic.
    It seems Korean politicians of both the ruling party and opposition party use anti-Japan-ism to gain popularity.
    For South Korea, it seems Japan is more of a hypothetical enemy than North Korea.
    More and more Japanese are wondering what the
    difference between North Korea and South Korea is if the dissidents, or people who oppose anti-Americanism, anti-Japan-ism are oppressed.
    But don’t worry, as I see it, no Japanese hold Japan should invade other countries as some of Koreans seem to fancy. I think Japanese rightist’s fear is rather China will invade Japan. But at the same time, there are enormous number of pro-China Japanese to the extent that I wonder why the US are not concerned about it.
    Most Japanese politicicans both LDP and DP put the US the first priority. I think that is the right direction. Japan is not sandwitched because Japan makes it clear that she goes with the US. I wonder if Korea will go that direction.

    I think Japanese politicians should keep a low profile as to historical issue, but on the other hand should have some private institution provide accurate knowledge on the Internet in English.

  12. comment number 12 by: General Tiger

    It seems Korean politicians of both the ruling party and opposition party use anti-Japan-ism to gain popularity.

    I agree. Those “forever anti-Japanese” blockheads always ruins everything.

    But don’t worry, as I see it, no Japanese hold Japan should invade other countries as some of Koreans seem to fancy.

    Even if some crazy Japanese Imperialistic Rigrightwing idiots thought so, Japan doesn’t have much of an army to be an occupying force, although the navy is good.

    I think Japanese politicians should keep a low profile as to historical issue, but on the other hand should have some private institution provide accurate knowledge on the Internet in English.

    Not to be pessemistic or anything, but then those institutions will be targets >_>

  13. comment number 13 by: goda

    Condemn???
    Fooom, my post was certainly conclusive or compulsory.
    I had no intention of it.
    Sorry, stannn.

  14. comment number 14 by: ponta

    General Tiger

    Even if some crazy Japanese Imperialistic Rigrightwing idiots thought so, Japan doesn’t have much of an army to be an occupying force, although the navy is good.

    It is obvious that Japanese military as it is is not formed to act alone.

    but then those institutions will be targets

    As I said, whatever Japanese do, it will be a target by Koreans. So the purpose of such a site should be to provide another perspective to the world based on solid evidences and arguement.