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Asked Not to Write About Dokdo on the Net

November 15th, 2006 . by Gerry-Bevers

I had planned to write two more pieces for my series on Dokdo/Takeshima, but the president of the university I work for in Incheon has asked me not to post anymore about “Dokdo” on the Internet. He told me that it was a sensitive issue in Korea and that he had been contacted by individuals complaining of my postings on the subject. He said that he was worried about the school’s reputation.

The president suggested that if I have strong opinions on the subject, I should write about it in an academic paper or hold a seminar rather than broadcasting it over the Internet. I agreed to do that even though I do not think anyone would take a non-historian seriously. Therefore, I will not be posting anymore about “Dokdo” on this site. People who would like to continue to exchange information on the subject can still contact me through my email address.

I would like to thank all the people on this blog who have given me links and information on Dokdo/Takeshima and who have translated Japanese maps and documents for me. I will keep my eyes and ears open and will continue to gather information on the debate, so if anyone has any interesting information or links, please let me know through email. Maybe someday I will manage to produce a paper or book on the subject. Who knows?

Gerry Bevers
gerrybevers@yahoo.com


85 Responses to “Asked Not to Write About Dokdo on the Net”

  1. comment number 1 by: seouldout

    A very annoying and disingenuous tendency for those who want to focus on Korea’s goodness to take us off topic w/ charges of anti-Korean, racist, yada yada..

    Harry, if you want to focus on the good parts, you ought to do so yourself, but at least do so within the topic. For example: “The university made a good choice….” and add a few points for development. ” A person’s view must be acceptable to everyone. This way we’ll all have good feelings.” Add an example, a personal anecdote would be okay. “When someone’s opinion is different from mine, I feel grumpy, and my day is no longer happy. Mr. Bevers’s information about Dokdo made me unhappy. I feel happy that he’ll no longer post.” Then you can wrap it up. Some folks use jokes, some use scarcasm, and the better ones use wit and irony. But you don’t need to. You can just restate your opener: “Since happiness is important, the univeristy made a good choice. Have a nice day. :-)”

    See, Harry, that was fun, wasn’t it? Good job! Atta boy!

    If you dislike “negativity” it’s really counterproductive to add more of it. That’s what some people call “adding fuel to the fire.” You need to choose to lead by example. Yes, you have a choice. Nifty, eh? Tell us the good things about Korea, but please do so within the topic at hand.

    Have a nice day 🙂

  2. comment number 2 by: HanComplex

    Hi Gerry,

    Just wanted to say that I truly enjoyed your very informative and educational articles on Takeshima/Dokdo. That’s sad that people will do anything to quell the truth but not really surprised considering where you are. I do hope your articles and research still stay on this site, however, for other people still in the dark about the issue. Certainly, a book or compendium of those translated into C/J/K would be terrific. Best of luck with that.

    Regards

  3. comment number 3 by: tomato

    Misplaced nationalism is a disease and leads to self-destruction…just look at Yugoslavia, Nazi Germany or the Japanese Empire…it’s a wonder what the Koreans learned from the lessons of the fall of the Japanese Empire…I guess they figured out that ultranationalism and hatred is the best solution, instead of torelance and respect for neighboring nations.

    Well, I think they’ll never listen, those crazed ultranationalists. God save their souls.

  4. comment number 4 by: claire

    Hi everyone,

    Firstly, I have to say, this site is one of the most amusing sites I ever visit. Not that it displays anything new and intriguing but I must say the group that this site gathers is quite an interesting bunch and I really enjoy reading everyone’s comments.^^

    Sorry I’m not posting about Gerry (who I do encourage to do further research, lots of research, lots and lots so that readers, other than occidental enthusiasts, will actually one day take you seriously).

    ponta stated:
    The US media is filled with negative things about the US, Chinese newspaper is filled with good things about China.
    The blog chooses to report the negative fact about Korea no other Koreans dare to criticize for some reason.

    Firstly, most of the “negative” reports of this site is referenced directly from korean media. And it is unfortunate that you make such generalizations about korean society maybe you have this bias (and you claimed that this site is not unbias) through the mechanisms of japanese media?

    In addition you have said:
    have you read Korean history textbook approved by the state? It only focuses on the negative side of Japan. As a result many young Koreans say they have a good reason to hate Japan. And many foreigner believe the distorted story about Japan they were told by Koreans. I think that is racist education. This blog criticize that attitude. I don’t think the blog is racist.

    Why do you complain that korean text books show negative TRUTHS (as many in this site loves to say) of Japan? Would you like to blame the negative FACTS for the distorted image of Japan? You claim that this is racist. Then can I ask… How about this website? Oh no, not racist just not unbias and only reveil negative FACTS, which is good and for the better of mankind. Well then, I guess the Korean text books are not that bad after all. 🙂

  5. comment number 5 by: chul_soo

    hello clair

    the owner of this blog and his readers believe that korean textbooks are full of lies because there is no such thing as sex slavery (comfort women), forced laborer and etc…
    i also think that u cant judge a country based on reading their newspaper articles or reading comments from navar. i believe that u actually have to live in a country for couple of years to fully understant why those people think or behave in certain way.

  6. comment number 6 by: Two Cents

    Claire,
    The negative news on Korea introduced at this site is not necessarily reported as a negative incident in Korea. And what most people at this site complain about regarding the Korean view of history related to Japan is that it is not based on fact or evidence. If it were, the Japanese would not be complaining. For example, you hear many Koreans claim that Paekche somehow created Yamato (ancient Japan). However, a quick look at historical records from China and Korea (and of course, Japan) show that wa (as Japan was called then) was regarded as a powerful country by both Paekche and Silla, and both sent numerous envoys and even princes as hostages to wa. Somehow, this get tranlated into the Korean mind as “Paekche built wa.” Then, when refuted with evidence such as the 広開土王碑 (monument of King Ho of Kogryo), they claim that Japan tampered with it, and continue to do so even after CHINESE scholars have provided evidence to the contrary.

    Have you ever read the Korean history textbook? The entry regarding their glorious independence from Japan is quite interesting. They use maybe a page to describe the war between the Axis and the Allies and dedicate the rest to an extensive account of the independence movement, which existed but never on the level in Korean textbooks. No wonder Hillary Clinton had to say in exasperation that “Koreans are suffering from historical amnesia.” A young Korean is only taught a greatly downplayed role of the US in its independence (=defeating Japan) and the Korean War. So, has the Korean textbooks that over-glorify Korean history helped the Koreans get by in the world today? South Koreans ended up with Noh for a president, a jeopardized alliance with the US, and shoe-shining the dear leader of their northern brother country, all because of the inflated egos of the 386 generation who grew up on the nonsense.

    Yes, it was morally wrong for Japan to have annexed Korea, just as it was morally wrong for the imperial powers to have colonized nearly the entire world. I cannot blame my country for struggling to try to be at the table and not on the table of the imperial-age banquet. But I can also understand how Korea still feels animosity towards Japan for having occupied it, and our country has apoligized on numerous occasions. (Curiously, none of the former powers have apoligized or paid reparitions to its former colonies like Japan, though they like to remind us that Japane never faces up to history.) However, the past wrongdoings of Japan does not give the Koreans the right to exagerrate and fabricate historical events that never occured. The Koreans exagerrate the annexation and describe it as though the Japanese went on a killing and pillaging spree in Korea and assume based on the present set of values that all Koreans participated in rebellious activites. It was not like that at all. Many Koreans simply went on with their lives, some even faring better than the days under the Chosun dynasty rule. Many here have provided sources and evidence for the claims they make. Unfortunately, the Korean supporters have failed to do so, and instead call the site racist and a hate site and try to undermine its credibility. It will work on people who don’t want to contemplate on what this site presents, and will not work for those who take the opposite stance. Unfortunately for Matt (and Gerry in this case), Koreans will almost always choose to take the blue pill rather than the red one.

  7. comment number 7 by: hls

    Hi clair,

    I am curious what kind of opinion you have on Gerry’s arugument regarding Dokdo. Are you in favor of his? If not, why?

  8. comment number 8 by: ponta

    claire
    Thanks

    Firstly, most of the “negative” reports of this site is referenced directly from korean media.

    Like the Korean article in which Chiba is supposed to have said what he didn’t say? Matt crticized the article, saying what is written is not grounded.So I am not sure what your point is

    Why do you complain that korean text books show negative TRUTHS (as many in this site loves to say) of Japan? Would you like to blame the negative FACTS for the distorted image of Japan? You claim that this is racist.

    There is nothing wrong with negative truth about Japan. Educating kids with distorted textbooks is wrong. And kids are not critical enough to judge and doubt the truth on their own.
    Besides, suppose for the sake of argument, as you say,

    Korean text books are not that bad after all.

    , That is, suppose I was wrong , and Korean text book is not racist. Then this site is not racist .Is that what you want to say after all?

    chul_soo
    Thanks

    there is no such thing as sex slavery (comfort women), forced laborer and etc…

    As for sex slavery. If you call tens of thousands of Korean prositute deceived by Korean pimps after the colonization sex slave, there was sex slave during the colonizaition just as there has been sex slave in Korea after the colonization.
    As for the forced labour, there was forced mobilization during the war in the period of the colonization just as there has been forced draft for young Korean men in preparation for the war in korea.

    i believe that u actually have to live in a country for couple of years to fully understant why those people think or behave in certain way.

    I agree, And even after that it does mean his understanding is absolutely correct.

    claire and chul_soo
    Thank you for the comment. i really appreciate it. Could you join the discussion on the topic presented by the post

  9. comment number 9 by: treesjess

    To Koreans,

    I am not anti-Korea. I lived in Korea for a couple fo years. And I will say this. Korea is a very dirty country. The reason why Korea is very dirty is because people are littering all the time. People of all ages are littering. You can see it if you go there.

    Anyways, the education in Korea is more like brainwashing the students to hate or about the stupid ugly rock islands. If they can brainwash little elementary school children, then they should brainwash their students to stop littering. and put the garbage in the garbage can. That is more important. Do Koreans even know how bad of a image they have in the world?

  10. comment number 10 by: chul_soo

    hello ponta

    thank u for ur comment. i am sure mr. gerry’s work didnt go unappreciated.

    hello treesjess.
    i am sorry that u had such a bad experience in korea for couple of years. however, in every country, there are dirty places and clean places. i am sorry that u lived in dirty part of korea for couple of years. In US, image of korea isnt so bad because many americans does not know much of korea compare of countries like japan and china.

  11. comment number 11 by: ponta

    chul_soo/claire and harry
    I hope you guys will stay and comment on the future post. Let’s exchange idea, and I can correct my prejudice and deepen understanding.

  12. comment number 12 by: Hotel

    And everyone lived happily ever after =)

  13. comment number 13 by: T_K

    Disgraceful. Those cowardly bullies should ashamed.
    The university president owes Gerry an apology for even suggesting that he stop his series. Does the university support inquiry only if it is convenient? Where’s their scholarly conscience now?

    Incidents like these will keep holding Korea back in terms of transparency and critical thinking. In the long run, lies and suppression of truth will backfire. I hope that one day, these thuggish “patriots” will confront you with a real argument instead of acting like spoiled little girls.

  14. comment number 14 by: Errol

    T_K Said:

    November 17, 2006 at 1:10 am

    Does the university support inquiry only if it is convenient?

    A
    most excellent point.

    I think inquiry is all Greek to the Koreans.

    Ἡροδότου Ἁλικαρνησσέος ἱστορίης ἀπόδεξις ἥδε, ὡς μήτε τὰ γενόμενα ἐξ ἀνθρώπων τῷ χρόνῳ ἐξίτηλα γένηται, μήτε ἔργα μεγάλα τε καὶ θωμαστά, τὰ μὲν Ἕλλησι τὰ δὲ βαρβάροισι ἀποδεχθέντα, ἀκλεᾶ γένηται, τά τε ἄλλα καὶ δι᾽ ἣν αἰτίην ἐπολέμησαν ἀλλήλοισι.

    Here’ s the translation.

    This is the Showing forth of the Inquiry of Herodotus of Halicarnassos, to the end that neither the deeds of men may be forgotten by lapse of time, nor the works great and marvellous, which have been produced some by Hellenes and some by Barbarians, may lose their renown; and especially that the causes may be remembered for which these waged war with one another.

  15. comment number 15 by: claire

    Alright, I will stick to the point of this thread.

    I have the greatest respect for all educators and this is what concerns me about Professor Gerry Bevers. The problem is not about freedom of speech or with him writing about Dokdo/Takeshima. Rather it is with him (as a educated/respectable leader and teacher of korea) being a regular contributor to a site that (i know we’re all in denail) fuels the flames of prejudice. This is why I question his validity, would you take an article presented in a kkk newsletter seriously? Lets say the article is brilliant, wouldn’t you still question the author’s integrity for contributing to a KKK newsletter? What if the writer was a professor at your university? would your respect for the university change?
    As a student, I would find it unacceptable if a professor of my university contributed to a site like this. My respect for the professor as well as the university would definatly be affected. I would be dissapointed if a professor employed at any American university contributed to a site full of prejudice (having unfavorable opinions about a certain group=prejudice) This has nothing to do with Korean education/society/people/beliefs/ blah blah and so on. Obviously, it’s not good for any univeristy’s reputation if people think that it employs prejudice professors. Mr Gerry Bevers still has all the freedom of speech he wants it was his decision to stay with the university. My question to him is why occidentalism.org?

    And I would have to say thank you ponta for respecting my opinions. I’m in my finals week but I will gladly come back to discuss when all the chaos is over 🙂

  16. comment number 16 by: Kaneganese

    Gerry,

    I’m so sorry to hear that.
    It was so exciting to see a lot of mysteries clarified by your effort.
    I actually learned that in order to understand historical problem of Takeshima, we have to cooperate with Korean side.
    Actually, it was not Korean, but an American in Korea though.

    You don’t have to be Ph.d.historians to study what you are interested in.
    There are lots of so-called history fans and the hometown historian in Japan.
    Through you and other devoting commentator’s work, I came to understand how important and precious those people’s effort.
    After all, accumulation of their ambitious work through thousand years has formed Japanese culture (which I’m very proud of) today.

    Having said that, it would be a good idea to submit your work to academic journals.
    It gives your work more credibility and I believe you can learn a lot from doing that.
    It’s not my expertise, but honestly, your work seems far more better than my master thesis at least…
    Japanese graduate school system is more flexible than other asian countries as far as I know.
    I highly recommend you to seek some advice from researchers in Japan.
    What about sending e-mails or letters to Prof. Masao Shimojou at Takushoku University or Assistant Prof.玄大松 at the Institute of Oriental Culture, Tokyo University.
    Those two are the only names I come up with right now.
    And don’t forget to ask the President to give you a good recommendation letter of course.
    I would have to say that this is his loss totally. He lost a good chance to show the entire world that his University is a real academic place and gain “reputations” for the freedom of speech.

    Anyway, I thank you for your effort from the bottom of my heart.
    Although I believe you did it because you love Korea, it gave Japanese a better understanding of Takeshima/Dokto problem.
    It’s a real shame that Korean couldn’t learn from you at all.
    I’m going to send you my e-mail address later because I still wonder where on the earth the name “dokto” really came from. Any clues?
    Please keep seeking truth and give us informations…carefully.

  17. comment number 17 by: ponta

    claire
    Thanks

    Alright, I will stick to the point of this thread.

    Yes, if you want to prove that this is the hate site, that is the best way to do.

    The problem is not about freedom of speech or with him writing about Dokdo/Takeshima. Rather it is with him (as a educated/respectable leader and teacher of Korea) being a regular contributor to a site that (i know we’re all in denial) fuels the flames of prejudice.

    I think I think presuppose that this is a site that fuels the flames of prejudices.I don’t think so, but let’s suppose that is true.
    Now Hankyorhe is the leftist newspaper. but it somehow fuels the flames of prejudices, but it does not follow an article on it is wrong.

    would you take an article presented in a kkk newsletter seriously?

    You have not proved that this site is like the site by KkK.
    But anyway, psychologically it is hard to accept what is written in a kkk newsletter, still it does not follow the article is invalid.

    Lets say the article is brilliant, wouldn’t you still question the author’s integrity for contributing to a KKK newsletter?

    Gerry was asked not to write about Dokdo on the internet, he was not asked to write about Dokdo on this site. So I am afraid what you say here misses the point.

    This has nothing to do with Korean education/society/people/beliefs/ blah blah and so on.

    I think this has a lot to do with Korean academy and society..
    Let me confirm the fact again; He was asked not to write about Dokdo on the internet.
    University is the place where the truth is searched, and to do that the maximum freedom of the speech must be guaranteed. I think the president of the university should have set an example that he/she stands firm in favor of freedom of speech against the threat .
    Some people say his\her decision was practical in a sense that however wrong the complaint was, if it does harm to the name of the university, it will do no good to the university. That might rationalize his/her decision but it does not justify the decision. I think the president missed the chance of gaining the title of the defender of freedom.
    The crazy rightist set fire to the house of a Japanese politician recently in Japan.. All Japanese media, PM, blamed this act, saying this is the challenge to the democracy.

    What is to be blamed is not the speech but the threat to the speech.

    And what he writes about contain no privacy, no hate speech.It has absolutely no reason to justify the restriction of the speech.

    I think Gerry should publish the articles he was planning to write in some way. Kaneganese’s idea is great. He can send the article to a Japanese university bulletin or some magazine like 正論. Matt or somebody might copy it and post it on the internet. But probably it is not practical idea, because as far as he writes in the name of Gerry, I am afraid the mad thug will complain to the university anyway. A Korean historian who said the Japanese colonization was a bliss in a sense that it was better than the rule by Russia or China was forced to resign job. I don’t think it is a good idea to risk the job.
    What do you think? Do you think the society where the threat to the
    writing about historical and legal status of the small islet triumphs is the right society?
    Anyway, good luck to your exam.

    reference:
    “The fortunate part about the occupation of Korea is that it was Japan that had colonized the peninsula,….it was Japanese scholars and their Korean disciples who had built the foundation of Korean studies……He urged Koreans to stop making compensation claims for Japan’s use of Korean women as sex slaves during World War II. He said the episode was only temporary and an exceptional case that had done no great damage.
    Following the publication of the article, originally written in Korean and then translated and printed in Japanese….

    And he had no choice but resign later(Japanese version of Chosun ilbo)

    The similar case in Japan in the increasingly militant environment of the 1930s
    .

    .

  18. comment number 18 by: Errol

    claire Said:

    November 17, 2006 at 5:24 am

    Alright, I will stick to the point of this thread.

    I have the greatest respect for all educators and this is what concerns me about Professor Gerry Bevers. The problem is not about freedom of speech or with him writing about Dokdo/Takeshima. Rather it is with him (as a educated/respectable leader and teacher of korea) being a regular contributor to a site that (i know we’re all in denail) (sic) fuels the flames of prejudice.

    Here’s a quote from The Racial Hatred Act:

    The Racial Hatred Act, introduced in October 1995, extends the coverage of the Racial Discrimination Act to allow people to complain about racially offensive or abusive behaviour. It aims to strike a balance between two valued rights: the right to communicate freely and the right to live free from vilification.

    Unlawful racial hatred

    The Act covers public acts which are:

    * done, in whole or in part, because of the race, colour, or national or ethnic origin of a person or group AND
    * reasonably likely in all the circumstances to offend, insult, humiliate or intimidate that person or group.

    Feel free to complain
    to the Human Rights and Equal Opportunity Commission if you honestly believe this site to be inciting racial hatred.

  19. comment number 19 by: claire

    lets not be so defensive, i’m not hear to complain, there is enough complaining going on in here.

    I never asked anyone to stop being prejudice dickhead, by all means its one’s right to say and choose go ahead “offend, insult, humiliate” all you want. but you see, you do aknowledge the prejudice of this site, ratifying it doesn’t make it an acceptable deed.

    aside from everything else, I just want to question why gerry would want to post his intellectual property and support a site that chooses to be prejudice against korea? hhmmmm…

    p.s. i bombed my physics final today so please be gentle with your comments. thank you.

  20. comment number 20 by: Errol

    Burden of proof

    The complainant is responsible for proving that the act was done in public, that it was done because of his or her ethnicity and that it was reasonably likely to offend, insult, humiliate or intimidate a reasonable person of that ethnicity.

    i bombed my physics final today

    my resume

  21. comment number 21 by: torren

    While I disagree that the reason the “professor” gave was adequate, perhaps there was more to it. At any rate, it’s not entirely wrong for him to have asked what he did. I think most of us take for granted the media we have access to, and with that in mind and knowing that there are not many viable sources to read on neutral issues, it’s surprising that Gerry (and others) did not choose to focus his site in engaging the people who need the truth the most; Koreans. To be fair though, at least Gerry was able to respond in Korean to the few of those that did post. I think ultimately the professor was bothered that while having many resources to back your claim, you chose to converse in a language in which many of the more knowledgeable Koreans in the subject are either not strong in or do are not really keen on the medium through which you did post. Anyway, hope you’ll be able to freely post to your hearts content in the future.

    claire: Unfortunately, seeing as you’re new around here, I can only say that the response you’ll get is most likely not what you want :). So hopefully I can answer your question and assume it’s enough for others to not warrant to toss garbage your way on this rough day. Gerry simply wished to get his lengthy posts on the subject across as many people as he could and Matt, who purports a site that speaks of the other side of Korean news, offered him his hand seeing as his readership his much higher. This site being biased is just your opinion, and Gerry seems to have thought otherwise. If it bothers you that much you should speak personally to him. Lastly, this site has enough info to debate your opinion on bias for a very long time, so if you’re taking something like physics I think you should just concentrate on that instead.

  22. comment number 22 by: Errol

    torren Said:

    November 17, 2006 at 4:32 pm

    if you’re taking something like physics I think you should just concentrate on that instead.

    Now that’s a sexist statement. Claire is quite intelligent enough to study physics and discuss epistemology.

    claire, as a science student, has presumably already encountered some of the epistemological issues involved in scientific inquiries.

  23. comment number 23 by: Fantasy

    Claire,

    although I do not follow the writers of Occidentalism in all their opinions, I certainly do agree with them that Koreans come from a viewpoint radically different from our own (i.e. from the one generally held by historians outside of North and South Korea), and that the Korean people need to be confronted with at least a vague notion of that difference (which they do not seem to be aware of).

    It is very difficult to pursue this goal in individual discussions – as the vast majority of Koreans make those who do not share their own views feel as if they’re fighting an uphill battle, or expose them to ridicule, so that the dissidents eventually feel compelled to give up the discussion, which is then invariably seen as a sign of victory for the Korean arguments.

    For those who have little or no first-hand experience of the views and opinions of the average Korean, it is hard to imagine their unbearable arrogance and their propensity for self-glorification.

    Occidentalism may have its shortcomings, but it provides a necessary corrective element in the fight against the persistent re-writing of history that is going on in both Koreas, North AND South.

    FYI:

    I am far from being an Anti-Korean racist, as you seem to be thinking, but have been happily married to a Korean woman for more than seven years, and intend to remain married to her ’til death us do part. My wife is full well aware of my involvement with this blog, has read all my contributions (including this one) and approves of it. She knows, that by writing critical comments here, I hope to be contributing to the eventual improvement of her country. Because some kind of improvement is definitely called for over there…

    Racists, in contrast, hold the believe that no substantial improvement is possible, as, according to their view, a people’s potential is predetermined by its genetic material. I want to make clear that I do NOT subscribe to this ideology, and never have done so.

    I am genuinely sorry about your bad feelings regarding your physics paper, and I hope that the result will, in the end, not turn out to be so bad, as you seem to expect. I remember my own time of taking finals and fully understand your situation. It is the good and diligent students who are the most nervous. The dumb or lazy ones do not give a damn.

  24. comment number 24 by: Matt

    Claire, Koreans tend to have a low threshold for taking offense. The reason some Koreans have tried to label this site ‘racist’ in the first place is because it took stands against Korean nationalist myths like Dokdo and exposed the rather extreme bias and fabrication in the Korean media. While some Koreans that have read these articles of mine and acknowledged them as factual, they still try to say its racist to mention it. So we have the kind of situation where Koreans never accept Korean racism, but make wild accusations of racism against others just because they don’t accept Korean sacred cows – which were often racist to begin with!

    On the subject of bias, I will quote myself from the FAQ.

    A: Your sense of bias and one-sidedness is completely subjective, and is no doubt fueled by your own biases and prejudices. When I read other Korea related sites, I sense bias, not balance. No process in which human beings are involved will be free of bias. At least I am honest about it, and people know where I am coming from when they read what I am writing. Nor am I afraid to allow readers to see other sites, as I recommend over and over again.

    Comparing this site to other Korean sites is comparing apples and oranges. Perhaps if other Korean sites were actually balanced, I wouldnt have made this blog. But they are not. While many Korea bloggers are in Korea and probably cant touch on the sacred cows for career reasons, none of my money comes from Koreans so I am not similarly restricted, which I think is a good thing.

    I was able to show the crude lies of the Korean media in my post ‘Japanese Repentence Marathon‘, something that other bloggers either ignored or didnt know about. I was able to show the ‘Crisis of Journalistic Integrity in the Korean Media‘, the exposure of which you call ‘race hate’. More examples of the ‘race hate’ you criticise me for and be found here, here and here, as I exposed fake atrocity photo’s being used on Korean sites to stir up genuine race hate against Japanese. Again I showed more Korean media lies about Japanese apologising to Koreans – a subject untouched by any other blogger. I wrote about the topical subject of Korean/foreign race relations, here, here and here, using only the real words of Koreans without distortion. A small portion of the articles that would never have been written if I had not written them.

    The fact is I am able to have a point of view that virtually every other blogger in the Korean blogosphere is unable to, and I am able to do that because I can speak, read and write Japanese to a near native level, and have decent Korean abilities too. I can also read (slowly) historical Korean texts written in Chinese, texts that non specialist Koreans cannot read today. This gives me the ability to read original documents from various time periods, like from the Japanese Administration period, to the Korean documents written in Chinese that clearly show that Dokdo is not mentioned as Korean territory, contrary to Korean claims (documents that I will be presenting and translating soon).

    This ability has enabled me to offer more than just the narrow points of view being offered by the Korean media and parroted by some bloggers. Being able to read Korean and Japanese and of course, English, I am able to read several sources with several points of view, and then post on Occidentalism to allow readers to decide for themselves what they think. I posted a review of a video (and the video itself) of a Japanese news story on the subject of the anti Japanese pictures drawn by Korean school children, not shown by any other blogger. When other Korea bloggers were wringing their hands and speculating about the content of ‘Kenkanryu‘, I actually went out and bought the comic, and after reading it, gave an honest review. Again, no other blogger did it, nor did any supposedly ‘balanced’ blogger do it (you would think that balanced would mean seeking the truth, but obviously that is not the case). I offered a photo essay of an alternative point of view on the Japanese administrative period in Korea, one that is not permitted in the mainstream Korean thought that focuses on, and exaggerates, Japanese abuses while playing down the amazing advances in the health and living standards of Korean people during that time. Its a point of view that has rarely been heard by foreigners, nor have I seen any Korea bloggers (much less ‘balanced’ Korea bloggers) put forth such a view.

    I write about what others do not write about. That is why this site is necessary, whether you agree with the content or not. The so called ‘balanced’ bloggers you extol either ignore, cover up or do not know about the kind of information I have been presenting here. This site exists to provide balance.

    Claire, one pattern I notice with ethnic Koreans such as yourself coming to this site and complaining of racism is that they never debate the issues. If you have a problem with what is written here, and feel that it is wrong, well set us straight! As you can see, there is a lively comments section. You have criticised me as racist without any evidence, yet I still allow you to post here. Most bloggers would have quietly banned you as soon you suggested they were racist. So comment away, on topic.

    By the way, Claire, the netizens are not angry at Gerry for posting on Occidentalism – they are angry about him posting a dissenting opinion about Dokdo. Their posts on the killzap (kill jap) naver cafe, where the attack on Gerry was organised, makes it clear that it is Gerry’s postings on Dokdo that they are reacting to. They do not mention me, or any of my postings. They do not speak of Occidentalism in general terms, or even show any cognizance of what it is. They also make it clear that the reason Gerry came to their attention was that he had found some of their writings on their normally closed cafe and they wanted to “plug the leak” and punish him for his Dokdo writings. They also point out Gerry’s writings on his own site, Korean Language Notes.

    To recap, the anger directed at Gerry has NO RELATIONSHIP to him posting on Occidentalism. If you need convincing, see the entire plan of attack that I discovered on the killzap cafe.

  25. comment number 25 by: chul_soo

    hello matt

    it is unfortunate that mr gerry’s is being attacked on killzap cafe because of his personal opinion and belief. i highly doubt that mr. gerry will be physically harmed by people at killzap cafe. if they are really serious about the attack, i doubt they would post their master plan on killzap cafe.. since it can be easily be traced. it seems that people at killzap cafe are school teenagers with too much free time. i do not know why u bother browsing such a stupid cafe, the cafe is full of stupid people with intense hatred towards japanese. i find the cafe highly amusing in sad way.

  26. comment number 26 by: ponta

    There are anti-Korean sites and forum on the Internet in Japan.
    I think the problem with Korean society is that the university has to pay attention to what the cyber thugs have to say and that they have influence over the president of university as to what its staff is legally doing outside the university.

  27. comment number 27 by: Fantasy

    Claire,

    here a quote from the latest post of Gerry Bevers (of 17 November) :

    “Korea has great potential, but Korean nationalism is killing Korea and wasting valuable resources.”

    That is exactly in point.

    We here on Occidentalism actually like the country but we do not like the state it is presently in. Racists would say: “Koreans are bad, will always remain bad.” That view is, of course, bullshit. We here instead want to get Koreans to mend their ways. They have achieved so much in such a short time, they will be able to make the transition in this field, as well.

    In 20 years time the situation in Korea will have changed for the better, I’m convinced. And my wife (a Korean) is longing for that…

  28. comment number 28 by: Errol

    Fantasy Said:

    November 18, 2006 at 11:13 am

    We here on Occidentalism actually like the country but we do not like the state it is presently in.

    Let me explain my personal perspective on Korean society. Korea is split into three groups; wealthy yangban, poor yangban and modern Koreans.

    The wealthy yangban will do anything to maintain their status in Korean society. They will kick and crush the fingers of anybody they perceive to be moving to a higher status position on the Korean society ladder. They do this in a variety of ways from rorting the real estate market to hagwonning their kids into “famous institutions” where they can mix with other members of their “elite” class. Any modern or historical drama in Korea covers these issues. They believe they are better than anyone else. They are racist, sexist and classist and major sponsors of the 5% of Korean GDP that is used to enslave women.

    The poor yangban (the group Fantasy refers to as the “underprivileged”) are upset (go hwabeong) when white boy, Japanese girl, Chinese man or Indian woman is successful. They believe that it is their “destiny” to live a life of luxury and leisure and rather than work in a 3-D job they prefer to while away their time doing a masters’ degree or studying for the civil servants’ exam, to maintain the illusion that they are members of the first group. They spend a lot of their expansive free time dragging down others from the ladder of Korean society. They are sexist, racist and classist.

    The modern Koreans. Fortunately, they are the majority of Koreans. Unfortunately, they have little power in Korean society as the wealthy yangban have disenfranchised them from political and business life. The poor yangban have disenfranchised the modern Koreans from most media outlets through their vocal opposition to proponents of change in Korean society, changes which would remove the concept of “born to rule”.

    Some wealthy yangban are also modern Koreans. They are usually regarded as race, sex and class traitors.

    I do not discriminate against ethnic groups. I do discriminate against puffed up little “bantam” Koreans who believe that they are better than “modern” Koreans on the basis of some spurious genetic inheritance, that is then bolstered by “attending” certain “famous” institutions in Korea or the USA. Who then go hwabyeong when the respect to which they “feel” they are genetically, or “famous institution” entitled, is instead given to modern Koreans who do a better job of getting things done in the Twenty First Century.

  29. comment number 29 by: lirelou

    Gerry. You work for a Korean university and had the courage to post trenchant, fact-filled articles that contradicted the Korean nationalist view of Dokto? Sir, you have my undying admiration, despite the fact that we many times choose to disagree.

    Humbly,

    Lirelou

  30. comment number 30 by: Matt

    Gerry. You work for a Korean university and had the courage to post trenchant, fact-filled articles that contradicted the Korean nationalist view of Dokto? Sir, you have my undying admiration, despite the fact that we many times choose to disagree.

    Humbly,

    Lirelou

    I have said the same to Gerry many a time.

  31. comment number 31 by: Errol

    Gerry,

    Perhaps you should be grateful that the brats aren’t throwing CDS and books at you.

  32. comment number 32 by: Gerry-Bevers

    I have a female Korean friend who told me that her ex-boyfriend was a mama’s boy and that he once told her that his mother still bathed him, even though he was already in his twenties. My friend said that they got into a fight when she told him that it was abnormal for a mother to still be bathing her adult son, which made him angry since he did not see anything wrong with it.

    My friend’s story reminded me of a Korean movie entitled “Olgami,” which is also a story about a mother who still bathes her adult son and gets jealous of and attacks his new girlfriend. It is a wierd movie, but one of the more interesting Korean movies I have seen.

    The point I want to make is that Korean mothers are traditionally very controlling, which is something that Korean children seem to be getting tired of. I am curious to know what the relationships were like between the mothers who were attacked and their sons. I do not mean to suggest that their relationships were as abnormal as the one in the movie “Ogami,” but there may have been way too much mothering involved.

  33. comment number 33 by: Errol

    Let’s not pretend that this is anything but racism.

  34. comment number 34 by: Errol

    The president suggested that if I have strong opinions on the subject, I should … hold a seminar

    When exactly did the president think you got off the plane Gerry?

    kk


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