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Bonesdog dissects a Debito post

March 5th, 2008 . by Matt

Here. Read bonesdog tear apart the racist tripe that Debito deems fit to publish on his blog.


26 Responses to “Bonesdog dissects a Debito post”

  1. comment number 1 by: The Overthinker

    Good stuff. The last bits of Aly’s post were just horrendous.

  2. comment number 2 by: john k

    Debito is exhibiting all the classic signs of a person about to have a mental breakdown.
    His behaviour is, sadly, not unlike a friend of mine several years ago. The same short temper, constant irritability, myopic mind set, lack of focus and objectivity and a general feeling that the whole world is against you. I suspect he doesn’t have any ‘true’ friends whom can point out to him he is going off the rails, or for him to discuss his “problems” with to redress the balance and take time-out. But being ex-American, a therapist would be more apt.

  3. comment number 3 by: bonesdog

    Thanks Matt. And Overthinker. I just can’t believe that someone who claims to be “fighting discrimination” and wants Japan to have anti-discrimination and anti-hate speech laws would then be posting hate speech on his own site. Not “allowing” others to make hateful posts, but putting the stuff up himself. Sheesh.

    And who is this Aly person? They seem to be as fucked-up as Debito is, if not more so (is that possible?).

  4. comment number 4 by: Vaughn

    Debito is at it yet again:

    He is really going off the deep end now, trying to find evidence of xenophobia in anything and everything.

    I find it ironic how he derides the Japanese media for twisting facts and sensationalism when it’s exactly what he is doing all the time. Really astounding. He’s trying to say that Japanese are racist because Michelin’s critics were off the mark.

    Even worse, if he can’t find evidence of racism in a story he has to make something up:

    I also heard a rumor that one of the restaurants that received some stars refuses foreign customers entry. But that’s just a rumor.

    I’m sure you did hear a “rumor” Debito…

  5. comment number 5 by: Dobo

    People all over are pissed at the Michelin critics because they favor French food and methods. When the Japanese side was talking about sending reviewers overseas and the locals didn’t like it, it was racist. Now that reviewers are being sent to Japan and the locals don’t like it, it is racist. Not a bit of consistency on Debito’s part. We get hypocrisy instead.

  6. comment number 6 by: john k

    The Michelin critics discriminate everyone in the name of “good quality” food.
    Their definition may differ from somone elses, but so what?

  7. comment number 7 by: Jerry Billows

    “But so what?” is right, john k.

    This is likely to be the number-one question on everyone’s mind as they read Debito Arudou’s website with a serious eye: “so what?”

    Almost everything he and his followers whine about is so incredibly trivial from both a historical and an international perspective that you have to wonder three things:

    1. Do they whine so much because they’re bored in Japan?

    2. Do they whine because they need to feel important — like their lives somehow matter in the grand political scheme of things by complaining about these isolated incidents of really questionable merit?

    3. Do they whine because they’re looking for friends and it’s easier to go online to Arudou’s website than go to their local bar?

    My money is on number one, and that goes for Arudou as well. They seem to be a bunch of bored English teachers and other riffraff looking for trouble where none really exists. Again, it’s funny stuff if it weren’t just a little bit too scary at times.

  8. comment number 8 by: Gerbilbastard

    From Debito’s new book:

    Chapter Six: GIVING SOMETHING BACK: DEVELOPING THE CIVIL SOCIETY
    1. How to find a group
    2. Starting your own group
    3. Formalizing your group (NGOs etc.)
    4. Making activism more than just a hobby.
    5. Running for elected office
    6. Staying positive when people claim “Japan will never change”
    7. Conclusions

    I really must ask, why can’t there be more emphasis on this point at his site?

  9. comment number 9 by: john k

    Jerry

    With regards to the Michelin, the French has this air of aloofness that French food is the best in the world and hence their French measurement guide by Michelin. Almost all European culinary chefs covet their opinion. As if theirs is the last word. Well, who said theirs is the last word, who says French food is the best??? Sad as it may seem it has become the default measure of a restaurant and its cuisine. I have been to some 2 star Michelin restaurants in London, not too impressed! The wine list was massive, mainly French!..with bottles over £3000 no less….enough said.

    For all the Italian restaurants I have been to in Japan, even renowned ‘famous’ ones, I haven’t been impressed at all either. I cook way better Italian than they do…..why? Because the flavour, tastes etc are all principally from Japanese equivalent ingredients and the cuisine is actually more French than Italian. I use actual Italian methods and ingredients which are hard to find, not cheap either! Even a cheapo restaurant in Italy makes better, but that should not come as any surprise.

    I have eaten Japanese in the UK and elsewhere in Europe. I thought the food was ok, until I came to live in Japan. The subtly of flavour and using fresh local ingredients cannot be surpassed. Japanese food is way much better in Japan than elsewhere….doh!…no surprises there. So I try to avoid Japanese restaurants outside of Japan, when possible, because it is like comparing MacD with real food. No contest.

    If anyone is uneducated enough, with their palate, to think a Michelin rating for a restaurant in Japan means something, then they should stick with the MacD’s. To make a racial issue out if it is clearly absurd. The French think they cook better than the English, The Italians think they cook better than the French and so on… hence, so what!?

    Personally I think Asian food is the best in the world, my fav is Thai. But next to impossible to get a good hot spicy Thai meal. The Japanese palate for spicy food is so low down on my scale it doesn’t register. I eat the chillies whole and wait for an eternity for the heat to register, which never comes…but that is the Japanese palate, again, so what?

    I think DR is actually all 3 on your list. I would however add one more.

    4) Do they whine because they are, in general, dissatisfied with their lives professionally and personally, where ever they live, and need an outlet for the angst?

  10. comment number 10 by: The Overthinker

    The Michelin Guide is put out by a tyre company, not the French Government. As such, its opinions reflect those of its compilers and publishers, and not any official French government stance vis-a-vis cuisine. The reason many chefs value their opinion therefore is because the chefs have decided that the Michelin guide know what they are talking about. If there was a general opinion among chefs that Michelin did not know an oyster from an onion, then their guides would be a joke.

    “The Japanese palate for spicy food is so low down on my scale it doesn’t register. I eat the chillies whole and wait for an eternity for the heat to register, which never comes…but that is the Japanese palate, again, so what?”

    I’d like to see you try that experiment with your average Brit or Yank and see how they like to chew whole chillies. You might find it is not the Japanese palate that is abnormal, but yours.

  11. comment number 11 by: john k

    I’d like to see you try that experiment with your average Brit or Yank and see how they like to chew whole chillies.

    You obviously haven’t been to England recently? Every street corner (or so it seems) has an Indian Curry house. Curry is now the most popular dish, it is even considered the “national dish”.

    Agreed in the US, none of my friends or the poeple i came across could tollerate chillies and spicy food the way Brits do.

  12. comment number 12 by: The Overthinker

    Yeah, but curry is one thing, eating whole chillies another.

  13. comment number 13 by: john k

    Depends on the type of chilli 😉

  14. comment number 14 by: Gerbilbastard

    There are two letters to the editors of the Japan Times today that everyone might find interesting.

    One is in direct response to the criticism of Debito’s column.

    The other one is a criticism of the number of people using the “xenophobia/racism” card in their letters to the editor.

  15. comment number 15 by: GarlicBreath

    Gerbilbastard Says:

    The other one is a criticism of the number of people using the “xenophobia/racism” card in their letters to the editor

    It is sad that so many people resort to those kind of false charges. Usually it means they don’t have an arguement, so they scream RACISM.

    .
    It’s pathetic really.

  16. comment number 16 by: ponta.

    Gerbilbastard
    It is interesting that DARRYL McGARRY in Sydney Austrarila criticize Lance Braman in Gunma Japan.
    As long as the reader is reading only Debito’s blog, it looks Debito is doing a great job, basically in line with someone with whiteman’s burden.

    What make his activity dubious is the way he runs his blog, he conducts his activity.
    He has been covering up the important facts which are not in favor of the cases he makes
    He has been blocking the comments that reveals them.
    Why, for instance, does Debito let the reader know the fact Mr Idbor admitted he had sexual intercourse with the accuser?—The accused claim is basially it was agreed, and he didn’t go so far as to having sex with the accused.

    Nobody would object to his claim that racism is wrong.
    What people are against is the way he presents case—no fact checking, covering-up, blocking criticisms.
    Today I have commented on TPR

    Comment by ponta

    March 14, 2008 @ 8:12 am

    Hi,
    There are several good points. The NJ needs this kind of helps, in that sense, the book is timely.
    As for Higuchi, Debito says he is Shiou shoshi, but according to the book cover, he is gyousei shoshi.
    Could you ask him which is correct?
    In passing, it seems you guys have contacts with Debito, could you ask him why he has been blocking Japanese comments on his blog while he is against “Japanese only” shop? Does he think the shop is okay if it blocks NJ without the sign “J only”, without giving reasons?

    I hope Debito’s fans will send the message to Debito.

  17. comment number 17 by: ponta.

    Sorry for the mess-up
    And correction.
    Why, for instance, does Debito let the reader
    →Why, for instance, doesn’t Debito let the reader

  18. comment number 18 by: Gerbilbastard

    Ponta, I personally don’t want to comment on the trial-related cases at all. It’s really unfortunate, but for all of these people in jail, even if they are innocent, simply because Debito has spun it as anti-foreign bias it’s hard for me to take his information seriously. As someone who was a staunch supporter of his for many years it’s pretty sad to see how far he’s dropped. Not everything is about race, and in my opinion more of these issues need to be approached from the strictest definition of the law to make the process valid. Whipping out the racism card from the very beginning serves no purpose whatsoever.

    His new sticker is a joke, by the way. Mark in Yayoi is right. “Non-Japanese are welcome” is the same as “Japanese are not welcome”. It needs to be changed.

  19. comment number 19 by: ponta.

    Gerbilbastard
    Thanks
    I agree.
    I have a lot of doubts on the way Japanese police conduct the seach. And as you know, Japanese media is also critical of false accuasasions.
    But Debito’s tactics is simply wrong.
    In case of Idbor, he is indirectly insulting the accuser, and there was a comment he approved that was directlyl insulting the accuser.
    As I said again and again, I am not saying Idbor hasn’s said any truth. There might be some truth in what he said. But it is simply wrong to suppress the translation of the court text and make it appear that he has the case.
    He did it twice—
    in case of Mr Idbor and in case of Mr Valentine,
    I welcome any activism for NJ in Japan, and I understand NJ need an organization for NJ, but I shudder at the thought it will be led by the dictator like Debito.
    I really hope Debito’s fans will change the way Debito runs his blog and he conducts his activity.

  20. comment number 20 by: Vaughn

    Considering these stickers cost 500 yen apiece plus 1000 yen shipping and handling, this comes off more as a tacky money making scheme rather than as a genuine effort to overcome discrimination.

  21. comment number 21 by: KenYN

    Ahh, Debito’s stickers – he’s been letting a few negative comments through, which is rather entertaining.

    I think it is ugly in the extreme and looks knocked up in 10 minutes in a freebie DTP package, and the prominent “(c) debito” is the icing on the cake.

    I also find his excuse about not being able to set up PayPal to charge less shipping to Japanese customers quite laughable.

  22. comment number 22 by: Matt

    KenYN, if I see one of those stickers I will be sure to tell the shop owner that I, as a non-Japanese, find it offensive.

  23. comment number 23 by: doinkies

    What happened to bonesdog? It seems his blog was deleted a while ago and I haven’t seen him comment on any other sites…

  24. comment number 24 by: Matt

    doinkies,

    Indeed, I was thinking the same thing myself.

  25. comment number 25 by: doinkies

    For the benefit of your readers, maybe someone who saved the text of bonesdog’s essay could post it in this blog entry?

  26. comment number 26 by: Matt

    I know I don’t have it…