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Britain pays tribute to Islam

October 4th, 2005 . by Matt

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This offends muslims, so its not allowed in the office

It seems that Britain is going to be the first country in Europe to bow down to Islam. With companies withdrawing products from sale because icecream swirls look like the symbol of Allah, and with British police doing their best to make sure they dont offend terrorists, its no wonder. Now the British are banning pictures and stuffed animal pigs from their offices because it offends muslims, reports Asian News International.

Winnie the Pooh can hurt Muslim’s sentiments!

Winnie the Pooh, the Piglet and The Three Little Pigs must be among every child’s favourite cartoon and comic characters, but workers at a council office in UK have been asked to remove all traces of pigs from the office, lest it offends Muslim staff.

Workers in the benefits department at Dudley Council, West Midlands, were told to remove or cover up all pig-related items, including toys, porcelain figures, calendars and even tissue boxes featuring Winnie the Pooh and Piglet, reports The Sun.

Reports said that the Council passed the decision after a Muslim complained about pig-shaped stress relievers delivered to the council in the run-up to the festival of Ramadan, the host month of fasting that precedes Eid.

Though some have expressed surprise, many have backed the ban.

“It’s a tolerance of people’s beliefs,” said Mahbubur Rahman, a Muslim Councillor who has backed the ban.

The last sentence is particularly vexing. ‘It’s a tolerance of people’s beliefs’, says the muslim councillor. Has it not occured to him that he should be tolerant, particularly of people whose ancestors have lived in that land for thousands of years (and he is a recent interloper)? Going further, have muslims ever shown the slightest bit of tolerance to anything non muslim ever? Truly, I am hard pressed to think of an example.

Is this the same people that produced the great King Richard the Lionheart, who fought fiercely against attacks from the Islamic world? I am at a loss.


25 Responses to “Britain pays tribute to Islam”

  1. comment number 1 by: Will Matthews

    One small point: Richard the Lion heart was French. (Not that there is anything wrong in that) but he did spend most of his time in France and/or Crusading and ironically used England like a giant piggy-bank. “Muslim intolerant depositing device for small Islamic friendly coinage.”

    It does make one wonder; what if the complaint regarding pig iconography had come from a Jewish person…? I wonder if they (the Muslim lunatic fringe) would have supported the motion then?

    Having given it some thought, I think we should start a campaign to receive an apology for the Muslim invasion of Byzantine and the Muslim Invasion of Spain, as I, as a European, find it deeply offensive that they have yet to apologise for the needless loss of life and persecution of my Christian European brethren.

    I also believe that a formal apology for harassment of Christians making pilgrimages to the Holy Lands, these events only occurred 1,000 years ago and lead to the Military action of the Crusades, which in its self was an act of self defense against, again, Muslim Terrorists of that era.

    As penance they should be forced to pay (in adjusted currency) for the Crusades.

    … in many ways we appear to be in a house of straw surrounded by the big bad Islamic wolf… (derived from an acutely symbolic story all things considered!)

  2. comment number 2 by: Matt

    … in many ways we appear to be in a house of straw surrounded by the big bad Islamic wolf… (derived from an acutely symbolic story all things considered!)

    Thats the exact story I was thinking of, Will!

  3. comment number 3 by: SEXYS

    I found very intaresting picture.
    Prime minister Koizumi..oh my god!!
    http://cynthia.bne.jp/nandemo/img/1107320716_0196.jpg

  4. comment number 4 by: Yooklid

    Well it’s also spreading to Ireland too 🙁

    They’ve removed a lot of the rules for admittance to the cops to basically allow anyone in. They used to have a pretty high standard of both physical and mental requirements, but the seem to be in a race to the bottom with it now.

  5. comment number 5 by: Victor

    Muslims do face a lot of racism in Europe, especially in France.
    A lot of muslims in France immigrate to Quebec because of that…

  6. comment number 6 by: Matt

    Muslims do face a lot of racism in Europe, especially in France.
    A lot of muslims in France immigrate to Quebec because of that…

    Any evidence for this?

  7. comment number 7 by: Victor

    What do you think these french people are discussing here?

    French forum

    The title of the thread “Le racisme en France devient très dangereux” is translated as “racism in france is becoming very dangerous…” And, muslims are the biggest victims of racism in France…

  8. comment number 8 by: Chris

    If people are talking about it on a forum on the Internet it must be true!

    Actually, I suspect Matt was looking for something along the lines of newspaper articles and such.

    By the way, what do you guys think of this quote?

    The revolt of the slave in morals begins in the very principle of ressentiment becoming creative and giving birth to values — a ressentiment experienced by creatures who, deprived as they are of the proper outlet of action are forced to find their compensation in an imaginary revenge. While every aristocratic morality springs from a triumphant affirmation of its own demands, the slave morality says ‘no’ from the very outset to what is ‘outside itself,’ ‘different from itself,’ and ‘not itself’; and this ‘no’ is its creative deed. (Friedrich Nietzsche, On the Genealogy of Morals)

  9. comment number 9 by: Victor

    Based on Nietzsche, I guess we can also say that racist victims behave in a way that could invite more racist attacks/injustice upon themselves?

    Maybe he’s right..

  10. comment number 10 by: ponta

    Chris,
    Nietzsche was talking of Christian, when he mentioned “the revolt of the slave in morals” am I right?

  11. comment number 11 by: lirelou

    Richard the Lionheart was Norman on his father’s side and French on his mothers, but definitely English. The trick here would be to research European opinions of the period to see if King of England was counted as equal to, or lower than, the Duke of Normandy. But then, England was a French speaking country then, at least as far as the nobility was concerned. Reference French incidents of racism towards Muslims, could it be that the Muslims are the largest minority group in France? Or are there any statistics out there that show that, percentage-wise, Muslims suffer more discrimination in France than, say, Black Africans. The irony, of course, was that in the bad old days, when France was a filthy imperialist power, people in the metropole were far more tolerant of their imperial subjects. And indeed, when World War I ended, a small percentage of African-American soldiers stayed on in France because they found the social climate far more accomodating than it was in their homeland. In any event, something is definitely wrong when the newly arrived in one’s homeland seek to impose their values and mores upon the indigenous. Is this Muslim colonialism from the bottom up? Or merely evidence that the British courts have forsaken both common sense, and common law.

  12. comment number 12 by: Dan Kauffman


    Odd isn’t no outcry against images of dogs, which are considered FAR more unclean than pigs by a factor of 7.

    Oh yes the Union Jack needs to go too, in the latest news.


    Muslims Offended by English Flag

  13. comment number 13 by: Victor

    In France, blacks and Asians are far better off than Muslims….Among the muslims, North Africans face the most fierce racist attacks. Especially, Algerians have the reputation of trouble-makers and they do live up to their notoriety…Consequently, they frequently fall prey to racist attacks, which continue to increase in France…

    The following article confirms that North Africans/muslims are the main victims of racist attacks.

    595 racist attacks on North Africans in France in 2004

    Most of racist attacks do not even get reported. Therefore, the number of actual racist attacks should be much, much higher… Unfortunately, many of decent Muslims in France also suffer from racism and that is why they continue to immigrate to the french-speaking province of Canada. Canada welcomes them regardless of their religion or their “reputation” back home…

  14. comment number 14 by: Matt

    Most of racist attacks do not even get reported.

    If the racist attacks are not reported, then how do you know about them?

  15. comment number 15 by: Victor

    Sorry, I meant to say, minor racist attacks…

  16. comment number 16 by: lirelou

    Victor. If it was up to me, Charles De Gaulle airport would have a very large mural at its entry point, depicting a French military cemetery with headstones bearing crosses, stars of david, and crescents and stars, above which would be flying a lone French national flag, and below which would be the legend: “Par le sang verse”. The tirailleurs, goumiers, spahis, and harkis deserved better.

  17. comment number 17 by: ponta

    ” Has it not occured to him that he should be tolerant, particularly of people whose ancestors have lived in that land for thousands of years”

    I agree.

    Liberals tend to accept multiculturism because they believe in equal right to pursue each peson’s happiness.so they tend to be tolerant of other culture.So far, I agree. but the problem is that there are nations and religions which are not tolerant of other values.I think liberals are wrong when they are tolerant of beliefs which arise from unpermissive attitudes,.

  18. comment number 18 by: Will Matthews

    In regards King Richard the Plantagenet of England, I would argue that if his mother was French, his father French (Norman), he spoke almost only French and predominately lived in France then he was by all accounts, French. However, I’ll concede to the fact that he was born in Oxford shire, which no doubt makes him English. Sorry folks.

    (…to put this into context, I’d probably, rightly or wrongly, argue that Queen Elizabeth II was German on similar grounds…)

    On the subject of the invasion of Britain by the Ummah. (or Islamic policital empire.)

    Britain is awash with a small but highly vocal group of politically correct liberals, manipulated and maneuvered by an equally small yet equally vocal group of politically motivated Muslims. This Muslim group is spear headed by Muslim Council of Britain, who can be summed up as ‘arses’. (http://www.mcb.org.uk/)

    In my opinion these groups (the incumbent politically correct mob and the Ummah) are a tiny minority, many British Muslims shrink away in terror by these types of announcements, as for the most part, they simply couldn’t careless and they simply wish to carry on their lives as they feel appropriate. These ‘ban Piglet’ announcements, simply put, embarrasses them.

    The problem is huge and is centered around definitions of the terms ‘racist’ and ‘racially tolerant’, which currently in the UK, are terms without boundaries or clear definitions.

    As a white British male, I have been brow-beat and brought up to believe the suggestion, that racism is disease that solely afflicts people of my origin and caste and the rest of the world lives in a harmonious multicultural society.*

    While many other peoples don’t acknowledge this constant sense of guilt of the indignous British or more importantly don’t manipulate it, the highly politically charged Islamics, supported by their politically motivated religious texts, have and are, taking advantage of this. An example of which is the above headline. In essense, the predominately white British feel guilty and the Muslim lunatic fringe know it and abuse it.

    This has in turn created an usual political air – Muslim fundamentalists have been strapping dynamite to themselves and climbing on board tube trains and buses but any comment on this is viewed, by the none Muslim British, as borderline racist, and one must tread very lightly when approaching the subject.

    Especially when, all one wants to cry out (in regard the Muslim fundamentalists), is “kick them out! The British live in a society where, in public, we simply cannot say things of this nature.

    It makes one wonder. If the Jewish, East Asian, Eastern & Southern European, Scandinavian, American and African peoples of Britain, some native to Britain others not, all decided to ‘Kick Out’ the Muslim fundamentalists, would it be a supreme act of racism or a supreme act of a truly multicultural society. After all, I love mixing with peoples of other nations (as probably do most people, the fascination with different cultures is universal) I just don’t like when they try and kill me.

    Will.

    *(As a side note: Imagine my shock to discover for example, that some Koreans, some Chinese and some Japanese seem totally at ease declaring all sorts of racist rubbish and in some cases, racist rubbish endorsed by their respective governments!)

  19. comment number 19 by: grimjang

    Piglet is cute?
    some take it horrible.

    my advice to you Matt.
    Be a Capitalist out Right.
    You can get all the craze.

  20. comment number 20 by: ponta

    I think liberals can live with religious people in general,but
    they can not live with religious fundamentalists.
    The fundamentalists hold that politics is religion, and they want to rule and organize a society in view of their religion,
    They sometimes deny the freedom of exprssion which liberals value most.

    Besides nobody has right to impose his/her new interpetation on the object, the meaning of which has been established in a specific society, especially when no ill-intention is meant.

    In my opinion the workers should not have conceded if they had wanted to stick with liberalism. They did not have to say, “love it or leave it” but they could have demanded the tolerant attitude on the side of Muslim just as they demands it on other people..

    However,it might be the case that workers thought the case is similar to the case of pornography;pornography is unbearble for some people to look at in the public space , so the freedom of expression is restricted.
    I am not sure if this analogy holds up. though.

  21. comment number 21 by: Chris

    Ponta,

    Christians were certainly Nietzsche’s favorite example to use when talking about ressentiment / slave morality. Some others he frequently referred to in this light are anti-semites, and socialists. It’s certainly not a phenomenon that’s limited to any creed or philosophy.

    Victor wrote:

    Based on Nietzsche, I guess we can also say that racist victims behave in a way that could invite more racist attacks/injustice upon themselves?

    Maybe he’s right..

    Yes. I would say that the reaction of many mainstream Muslims in the wake of 9/11 and the Britain bombings are a perfect example of this.

    Even though many of us (myself included) like to remind the US Government that the world will judge it for its actions- the US Government is quite aware of this. The US government has been a powerful entity for a long time and has some awareness of this kind of dynamic.

    The Muslim populations of the US, UK et. al. may have such a feeling of marginalization (or as some, like myself, might slyly assert- they are so attached to their feeling of marginalization) that they may not find it quite as obvious that they, too, will be judged by their actions.

  22. comment number 22 by: Will Matthews

    Much of their (Muslim) feeling of persecution is spread and perpetuated by the constant re-telling of a bastardised view of history, spread by and maintained by there Religious leaders, who are not so-much interested in providing an unbiased educational view of history but much more interested in creating a pseudo-Islamic empire and all the power, money and influence that entails.

    The problem with lying about history, is that eventually one of your own kind will dig it up and all sorts of trouble will begin. They (like many other nations around the earth) are building their pseudo-Empires on a very weak foundation.

    Will

  23. comment number 23 by: ponta

    Chris
    Thanks
    In my interpretation of Nietze, for Nietze, Jesus was a great guy in that he provided oppressed herd who had much resentment against a ruler with a creative interpretation of old testment and the world.Before Jesus, the poor was cursed, after Jesus the poor was blessed. “No!” is creative because by saying so, they break away from the established order.The marginalized religion like Christianity at that time gained the power because it gave the slaves the flamework that they can act on toward the power and because it was drived strongly by unconcious resentment.
    (The similar things are said of Marxism)
    Now if what will said above is true. religious leaders in Muslim might function as Jesus and Marx, and because they feel maginalized and resentment againt western world, I think the fundamentalists might gain the great power as was the case with Christianity.

  24. comment number 24 by: Dan Kauffman

    However,it might be the case that workers thought the case is similar to the case of pornography;pornography is unbearble for some people to look at in the public space , so the freedom of expression is restricted.
    I am not sure if this analogy holds up. though.

    Well since among the 10 items which are by nature unclean, dogs rank lower than pigs and infidels fall in between, maybe the person should return to where they will not have offensive material shoved in their faces,. But then they do have a plan for removal of offensive Infidels, it’s called Jihad
    ie images of pigs, dogs and infidels

  25. comment number 25 by: HangPC2

    Saladin (Salahuddin Al-ayubbi) is a West Asian

    ASIA !!!!!!