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“Dokdo Center, ‘East Sea Cannot Beat Sea of Japan'”

March 23rd, 2007 . by Gerry-Bevers

The following is my translation of a March 23 article from the online version of the Korean newspaper, “Segye Ilbo”:

Dokdo Center, “East Sea Cannot Beat Sea of Japan”

[Segye.com] “The percentage of world maps that show Sea of Japan is so much higher than those that show East Sea that it is incomparable….Now Takeshima is generally used more around the world than Dokdo. If the Sea of Japan and Takeshima are combined,  their synergy will make it much more likely that they will be recognized as Japanese territory.” (Dokdo Center)

At 10 a.m. on the 24th, a Dokdo Solidarity Academic Forum will be held in the auditorium of the Dokdo Center. The participants will discuss the need for creating systematic countermeasures for dealing with the fact that the name East Sea cannot win over the Sea of Japan, which has global recognition.

The Dokdo Center claims that since the people of the world commonly see the name East Sea in terms of a compass direction, we need a proper name that will be recognized by the people of the world. The center says, therefore, we need to put forth a name that is historically and logically more rational than the Sea of Japan. The center added, we have to name it “Joseon Sea” since that name was commonly used in East Asia for the East Sea in the past.

Among those presenting at the forum will be Dokdo Museum Director Lee Seung-jin and Busan Foreign Language University Professor Kim Mun-gil, who will be using a great deal of Japanese data to shed more light on Korea’s territorial claims.

Segye.com Reporter Yu Myeong-jun neocross@segye.com

March 23, 2007 (Friday) 17:28

Link to the article

So, since Koreans are the only ones in the world who use the name “East Sea” for the Sea of Japan, they now want to drop that name and, instead, use “Joseon Sea,” a name that no one in the world uses, including Koreans? Does that make sense?

It seems pretty obvious to me that Koreans just view this “sea-naming” game as a kind of competition with Japan, which does nothing but make Koreans look silly in the eyes of the world. Someone in authority in Korea needs to stand up and say, as loud as he or she can, “Let’s just drop this issue before we look any sillier than we already do. Pursuing this is hurting us more than it is helping us.”


8 Responses to ““Dokdo Center, ‘East Sea Cannot Beat Sea of Japan'””

  1. comment number 1 by: surabaya johnny

    This issue pisses me off to no end. Who the fuck do Koreans think they are that they can tell me what to call a body of water in my language?

    You do realize that every time they change the romanization (maybe every 25 years), we should change the English spelling of good English words like “kimchi.” Yes, kimchi is an English word – it’s in the dictionary. QED. Gimchi, however, and the fodder of the pencil-brained, “Corea,” are not. I’m not by nature a prescriptivist, but I’ll be damned if I’ll let nationalist retards dictate what is English. (Note: I am not referring to the normal, decent people of Korea as “nationalist retards.” I’m only referring to the VANKers and the usual suspects who post here. The average Korean is salt of the Earth. Amen)

  2. comment number 2 by: ponta

    it seems pretty obvious to me that Koreans just view this “sea-naming” game as a kind of competition with Japan,

    It seems obvious to me too and it seems obvious to James

    I just hope Korea will just stop this silly game with Japan of any kind, and she will be a good country. I think the only thing she will lose by stopping this game is that she is a victim.

  3. comment number 3 by: pacifist

    I strongly agree with ponta.
    Korea should forget about the competetion with Japan, she will be a good country if she wants.

  4. comment number 4 by: GarlicBreath

    The Koreans just hate Japan. They will accept any name but the Sea of Japan. Most average Japanese don’t hate Koreans at all. But most Japanese are not obsessed with Korea.

  5. comment number 5 by: kojibomb

    Garlicbreath, on the other hand, is obsessed with Koreans. You met every single Koreans before so he must know that ‘the Koreans’ hate japan. I think you should stop these comments about Koreans being ultranationalistic, foolish, and idiots. You are just scaring ppl away from this site.
    What is a ‘good country’ you guys are talking about? countries have ppl who has their own individual views on subject… same for Japan or Skorea. That is why when Japanese PM apologizes to SK, there is always other politicians to prove them wrong. Also, in SK, there is GNP which try so hard to make strong ties with Japan and the US; on the otherhand, there is Uri party that hates both japan and thhe US.
    surabaya johnny
    I dun get ur Kimchi stuff… lol
    but my Korean name tells me to become light and salt of the Earth. Can’t a fully Korean blooded guy become 光塩 of the Earth?

  6. comment number 6 by: HanComplex

    So, since Koreans are the only ones in the world who use the name “East Sea” for the Sea of Japan, they now want to drop that name and, instead, use ”Joseon Sea,” a name that no one in the world uses, including Koreans? Does that make sense?

    Koreans must really like making jackasses out of themselves when they do this. So if “Joseon Sea” doesn’t pan out, they’ll probably brainstorm for another name to use. Even if it doesn’t make sense so long as “Japan” is not mentioned in any way. How immature. The world is watching, Korea. You should be so proud of yourselves.

    This is the kind of behavior that 5 or 7 year olds usually exhibit, yet this mentality seems to be the norm for ultra-nationalist Koreans. The funny thing is those Koreans who (presumably) should know better don’t even bother saying anything critical against such blatant idiocy. It’s like they’re giving their tacit approval to stupidity when they keep mum about such things. Well, they can continue to do so; not a part of the solution, a part of the problem. Along with their hanja illiteracy, mass export of whores, etc. it’s no wonder their culture continues to stagnate. And they can blame nobody else but themselves.

    Well done, Koreans.

  7. comment number 7 by: SuikaDorobo

    Oh well… the East Sea, the Sea of Korea (or “Corea”, maybe), Hangook Sea, Chosun Sea, etc, etc… so what’ll come the next? My recommendation is the Dangoon Sea, or maybe the Bear Girl Sea is better? :p

    What makes them look even more pathetic is that they claim the “controversial” sea has been called that way since long, every time they invent a new name for it. Doesn’t this seem to have something in common with those contradictory testimony by the former comfort women mentioned in the earlier posts of this blog?

    BTW buys, has any of you ever heard those VANKers or Dokdo Bomboo people insint, in the same way, that the Yellow Sea should be called “the West Sea” or whatever? I haven’t, and I can easily guess why.

  8. comment number 8 by: crypticlife

    You know, even with the dislike of the English and the French towards each other, you never see the French trying to rename the English channel. Other non-controversies include:

    Borneo not trying to rename the Java Sea
    New Guinea not trying to rename the Phillipine Sea
    Africa, Burma, Thailand and Malaysia not trying to rename the Indian Ocean
    Turkey not trying to rename the Sea of Crete
    Russia not trying to rename the Gulf of Finland
    France not trying to rename the Straight of Dover
    England not trying to rename the Irish Sea
    France and Spain agreeing on the Bay of Biscay
    The Gulf of Venice
    Madagascar allowing the Mozambique Channel
    A host of African nations allowing the Gulf of Guinea
    Canada refraining from protesting the Gulf of Alaska
    Astralia doesn’t argue the name of the Timor Sea
    New Zealand doesn’t protest the Tasman Sea

    Of course, none of these would make a difference if the Sea of Japan were a legitimate controversy.