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Fake Atrocity Photos II

August 9th, 2005 . by Matt

A previous thread analysed a fake atrocity photo and showed that it was airbrushed, misattributed and not an atrocity at all. Unfortunately, a few commenters took offence at the deconstruction of lies and denounced me for daring to expose anti Japanese propaganda.

That said, here is another fake atrocity photo used by Koreans. It is from the same Korean site as the other one, and is one of the most popular photos around the Korean net for ‘proving’ Japanese atrocities in Korea. The image can be found here and is reproduced below.

Picture purporting to be a Japanese soldier about to cut the head off a man
fake
The Korean caption says ‘just before execution’

This is supposed to be a Japanese soldier ready to execute a man with his sword. The problems with this photograph are:

*This photo is supposed to have been taken seconds before the chinese man was to be executed, at the soldier prepared for a downward slash to cut off the head at the neck. And yet this soldier has open legs. He would not be able to slash downward and cut off the head in that stance.

*The soldier in the photo is wearing a sleeveless Jacket. He also seems to be wearing a Chinese peasants shirt and his ‘belt’ seems to be a length of rope. No Japanese soldier of any rank would ever wear that kind of attire (It would be a breach of discipline to do so).

*Moreover, this is a composite photograph. Look at the shadow of the soldier with the sword and that of the soldier to his right. The shadows are cast in different directions. Since this is an impossibility, we know that this photo is a crude fake created for anti Japanese propaganda purposes.

Verdict: The soldier in the photo is Chinese and this composite photograph is a crude fake.

I suppose there will now be much wailing and gnashing of teeth by all the usual suspects.


21 Responses to “Fake Atrocity Photos II”

  1. comment number 1 by: Yooklid

    While I am not 100% sure, I think that I’ve seen this photo in “Rape of Nanking” by Chang. Where it was Japanese soldiers taking the heads of chinese POWs. If it is, people are sure getting mileage out of this picture…

  2. comment number 2 by: dogbert

    Why are Koreans inveterate liars?

  3. comment number 3 by: Matt

    While I am not 100% sure, I think that I’ve seen this photo in “Rape of Nanking” by Chang. Where it was Japanese soldiers taking the heads of chinese POWs. If it is, people are sure getting mileage out of this picture…

    Yooklid, I am pretty sure that is also in “Rape of Nanking”.

  4. comment number 4 by: mae

    i have a feeling the notions of lie for many koreans are different from poeple in other area.
    basic reason is koreans have stronger tendency to concern who is stronger/higher/richer than others. and so priority is “the end can justify means” to be a higher position than others.
    plastic surgery, bribery, fabrication, distortion all stem from the same root.
    (of course i m not saying korean is the only to do so, i just say they have stronger tendency)

  5. comment number 5 by: Yooklid

    Does anyone actually know the true history of the photo?

  6. comment number 6 by: Kushibo

    Is this photo also fake? Can we rest assured that the Japanese didn’t behead anyone?

  7. comment number 7 by: ponta

    Kushibo asks,”Is this photo also fake? Can we rest assured that the Japanese didn’t behead anyone?”

    Who took this picture? and when and where? what do you want to prove?

    When the photo is used as a evidence in court, these things are essential.

  8. comment number 8 by: Matt

    Is this photo also fake? Can we rest assured that the Japanese didn’t behead anyone?

    Why is it that you resent the exposure of fake actrocities? Korea and Japan were on the same side in ww2, and there were no battles fought in Korea. Korea doesnt have any battlefield atrocities so the motivation of Koreans posting these kinds of photos is probably to distribute hateful propaganda.

    While we are posting photos completely out of their context, how about telling me if the Japanese did this.

  9. comment number 9 by: Mika

    Chinese soldiers executed Japanese POWs and Chinese nationals by beheading. http://edition.cnn.com/WORLD/9609/23/rare.photos/index.html

    “They enjoyed it,” Simmen said. “They (were) waiting for the head to get cut off, then they took the head and played football … I mean that was a terrible thing.”

    Chinese often killed each other throughout their history, including this period.

  10. comment number 10 by: Gerry Bevers

    Yes, the shadow of the executioner’s foot seems to be going in a different direction from the other shadows, but the argument about the uniform seems to be a little weak. Isn’t it possible the Japanese relaxed their dress code for exercutions?

    I can believe that the Japanese did exercute prisoners, as it seems Americans and others may have also done (“American troops ‘murdered Japanese PoWs'”), but what I find suspicious about a lot of these atrocity photos is that many have a Japanese soldier in them with a big, goofy grin on his face. In fact, there is one grinning soldier, in particular, there seems to appear frequently, as if someone found the goofiest grinning Japanese they could and pasted his picture in different photos. No, it is not Japanese soldiers executing prisoners that I find most suspicious; it is the fact that in many of the photos the Japanese seem to be enjoying the execution. I think a lot of these grinning Japanese may be plants designed to try to demonize the Japanese.

    Another thing I have noticed about a lot of these atrocity photos is that many are fuzzy and out of focus. Even the photo shown above looks more surreal than real. It looks more like a frame taken from some old black-and-white movie film than a photo taken in the late 1930s or early 1940s. Why is that?

  11. comment number 11 by: ponta

    Kushibo, do you want to prove that a Korean soldier is just trying to excute an Australian against Japanese army’ s order or that a Japanese soldier is just trying to excute an Australian who commited a war crime or that Japanese is a devil? In any case I guess it is very difficult to do so unless we know who took this poho, when and where.
    As I said elsewhere it it completely all right for you to criticize atrocities Japanese army has done. Some of them really committed war crimes.
    . For instance, I came across this story:a crazy Japanese officer, Major Sueo Matoba, decided to include American flesh in a sake-fuelled feast he laid on for officers including the commander-in-chief on the island, Gen Yoshio Tachibana. Both men were later tried and executed for war crimes. Does that satisfy Korean nationalistic sentiment?The story is well documented, and even so-called right wingers admits it,THEY ARE CRAZY. There are always crazy people in any society and especially in a war situation, some irrational things are easy to happen.That is one reason Japan has renounced the war in the constituion.

    The point is not that Japanese arrmy did or did not committed the war crime; some of them did. but the point is that these Korean are using fake or uncertain photos to satisfy thier nationalistic sentiments, and putting up on the internet so that anyone from the world can see.
    Japanese think it is very unfair, and some of them are getting impatient on the Korean hate-oriented and unfair attitude against Japan…
    Imagine you come across the site that put up the uncertain photo of naked woman, in which says “This Japanese woman is raped by a Korean” or the photo of dead body whose caption says “this Japanese was killed by a Korean”
    Asked who took the pictures, “I don’t know but they are circulated worldwide”
    What would you react?

  12. comment number 12 by: Lyrt

    Kushibo Said:

    August 9, 2005 at 9:40 pm

    Is this photo also fake? Can we rest assured that the Japanese didn’t behead anyone?

    Yes, this blurred photo is a fake. You’ll find it in this book. It seems it is currently unavailable, but I found it easily in a library. You’ll see it is a clumsy photomontage where the Caucasian PoW clearly appears as cut-and-pasted.

  13. comment number 13 by: Barbara Bush

    Once upon a time Shakie let Korean boys spunk in his mouth, but now he’s soooo angry

  14. comment number 14 by: ponta

    Matt

    Is this the way how Korean react when their myths is about to get debunked?

    These comments only reinforce the belief you are presenting truth that they can not argue rationally against; thus, they react emotionally.

    Or is this guy ill-intended non-Korean who wants to make it believe that Korean react like stupid?

    I am talking about Laura and Barbara Bush and others who use inadequate language in the comments…

  15. comment number 15 by: Matt

    Matt

    Is this the way how Korean react when their myths is about to get debunked?

    Yes it is. Someone wrote a good short story about it. Its in Japanese, so go ahead a have a read.

    These comments only reinforce the belief you are presenting truth that they can not argue rationally against; thus, they react emotionally.

    Or is this guy ill-intended non-Korean who wants to make it believe that Korean react like stupid?

    I dont think so. Still, I think that the person writing that offensive stuff is a Korean that lives overseas.

    I am talking about Laura and Barbara Bush and others who use inadequate language in the comments…

    They are all the same person. The IP address for this person is 82.96.100.100 and is in Basil, Switzerland. If it doesnt stop then I will let his ISP know, and if it still doesnt stop I will just ban all IP addresses from that company, or all IP addresses from Switzerland for a while. Banning the IP like that means that person wont even be able to view the site, much less post.

  16. comment number 16 by: ponta

    Show him\her compassion by giving him a chance to debate with you,
    I hope.
    ,

  17. comment number 17 by: Matt

    Show him\her compassion by giving him a chance to debate with you,
    I hope.

    I dont think he wants to debate. But if he will be polite and not use abusive language, then I am prepared to debate.

  18. comment number 18 by: Sean

    Regarding the three points that Matt presented,
    1. How do we know for sure that the man with the sword stood in that position when he cut. It was said that the picture was taken seconds before the beheading. A person can move in seconds to a better position.
    2. The comment “He also seems to be wearing a Chinese peasants shirt” suggest some doubt that he is wearing a peasants shirt. Also, I have seen World War II documentaries that show Japanese soldiers out of uniform in combat in the Pacific.
    3. How do we know for sure by looking at this old blurry picture that the blackness shown by the soldier to the right is actually a shadow.

    Verdict: It could be a real photo if the only evidence against it being real is the 3 points that Matt presented.


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