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Israeli academic warns Australia about Muslim immigration

February 16th, 2007 . by Matt

An Israeli academic warned that Australia would experience serious problems if the Muslim population reached 10%.

LIFE can become untenable when the Muslim population of a non-Muslim country reaches about 10 per cent, as shown by France, a Jewish expert on Islam says.

The Australian Jewish News yesterday quoted Raphael Israeli as saying Australia should cap Muslim immigration or risk being swamped by Indonesians.

Professor Israeli told the Herald that was a misunderstanding. But he said: “When the Muslim population gets to a critical mass you have problems. That is a general rule, so if it applies everywhere it applies in Australia.”

Professor Israeli, an expert on Islamic history from Hebrew University in Jerusalem, has been brought to Australia by the Shalom Institute of the University of NSW. The Australia-Israel Jewish Affairs Council is co-hosting many of his activities.

He said Muslim immigrants had a reputation for manipulating the values of Western countries, taking advantage of their hospitality and tolerance.

“Greeks or Italians or Jews don’t use violence. There is no Italian or Jewish Hilaly [a reference to the controversial cleric Sheik Taj el-Din al Hilaly of Lakemba mosque]. Why?”

Professor Israeli said that when the Muslim population increased, so did the risk of violence.

“Where there are large Muslim populations who are prepared to use violence you are in trouble. If there is only 1 or 2 per cent they don’t dare to do it – they don’t have the backing of big communities. They know they are drowned in the environment of non-Muslims and are better behaved.”

In Australia, Muslims account for about 1.5 per cent of the population.

Professor Israeli said that in France, which has the highest proportion of Muslims in Europe at about 10 per cent, it was already too late. There were regions even the police were scared to enter, and militant Muslims were changing the country’s political, economic and cultural fabric, and demanding anti-Semitic and anti-Israel policies.

“French people say they are strangers in their own country. This is a point of no return.

“If you are on a collision course, what can you do? You can’t put them all in prison, and anyway they are not all violent. You can’t send them all back. You are really in trouble. It’s irreversible.”

Professor Israeli said that in Australia a few imams had preached violence. “You should not let fundamentalist imams come here. Screen them 1000 times before they are admitted, and after they are admitted screen what they say in the mosque.”

He said some Muslims wanted to impose sharia (Islamic law) in their adopted countries, and when propaganda did not work they turned to intimidation.

Professor Israeli said his task was to describe, not prescribe. He also said his warning did not include immigrants, including Muslims, who simply wanted to improve their lot. As long as they respected the law and democracy, their numbers — Buddhist, Muslim or Jew — were immaterial. It became material when a group accepted violence.

“The trains in London and Madrid were not blown up by Christians or Buddhists but by Muslims, so it is them we have to beware,” he said.

Australia has been lucky so far. London style bombings have been averted here because the police and intelligence agencies managed to arrest the terrorists before they could execute the plan.

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Keysar Trad, founder of the so-called Islamic Friendship Association of Australia

Keysar Trad, of the Islamic Friendship Association of Australia, said “Not only religious clerics need to be screened before entering Ausralia but also academics … this type of academic does nothing but create hatred, suspicion and division … We should review not only what the man has said but also those who have sponsored him, to see if they endorse those comments.”

Review what he said, and then what? Behead him? Mr Trad needs to understand that it is not racism or religious bigotry that makes people worried about Muslim terrorism, it is Muslim terrorism making people worried about Muslim terrorism. If Mr Trad cares about community relations, then he should consider making an anti-terrorism activist group, and call it “Muslims against terrorism” or something like that. The rest of the community would appreciate it and could come to see ordinary Muslims as allies in this fight. But Mr Trad will not do that, considering he is part of the non-criminal, legal arm of terrorists with the gaol of spreading terrorist ideology.

Wikipedia often has excellent biographical information. Here is Keysar Trad’s entry.

* He once translated some articles for “Nidal ul Islam”, the magazine of an Australian-based group called the ‘Islamic Youth Movement’, of which Bilal Khazal was once a member.[3] The group has since been investigated for alleged terrorism-related offences.
* In 2005 he said, “The criminal dregs of white society colonised this country and…the descendents of these criminal dregs tell us that they are better than us.” [4]
* Despite publically stating that he rejects terrorism, Trad’s refusal to strongly criticise some terrorist groups, such as Hezbollah, has led to allegations that he is not sincere in encouraging Muslims to reject it. In addition, his frequent criticism of Israel has led to many accusations that he is anti-Semitic. Moreover, in August 2006, shortly after a ceasefire between Israel and Hezbollah was agreed to in order to end conflict, Trad and Hilaly wrote to the Lebanese Prime Minister, Fouad Siniora, urging him to reject Australian peacekeepers. [5]
* He offended many moderate Muslims, as well as some Australians of Turkish background, when he alleged “Atatürk was in fact an opponent of the practice of Islam” [6] when responding to Australian Treasurer Peter Costello’s speech [7] suggesting Modern Turkey as a model for Islamic countries.
* Throughout his years as Hilaly’s spokesperson, Trad has been heavily criticised for continually defending Hilaly with his insistence that Hilaly has been taken out of context or misunderstood. For example, following the comments made by Hilaly in October 2006 which implied that if a woman is raped it is usually her own fault, Trad said that Hilaly was talking about adultery, not rape. [1] Sydney Morning Herald Columnist Paul Sheehan accused him of lying. [8]
* In response to comments made by Sheik Hilaly on Egyptian TV, Trad once again suggested he was being quoted out of context.

The mainstream media keeps quoting this guy without any context provided about who he is, and what he believes in. The media should be challenging him about what he is saying, especially when he keeps on accusing others of spreading hate.


6 Responses to “Israeli academic warns Australia about Muslim immigration”

  1. comment number 1 by: shadkt

    There does seem to be a definite violent streak in Islamic and Muslim religion sectors of the world today. Whether the violent nature is due to those religions themselves or just the instability of the particular region is so very difficult to seperate out, but if Muslim violence seems evident in Australia of all places (and from Matt’s previous posts, there seems to be these violent cases), it does back up the view.

    I suppose there are no Muslim followers reading this site to give us their views, but I would really be interested in hearing their side of the story, too.

  2. comment number 2 by: randomcow

    “Their side” of the story in Australia is always the same – the media is blowing it out of proportion. Which is a right joke in Australia, considering we don’t have free speech there.

    RC

  3. comment number 3 by: Travolta

    I recommend watching a documentary called “What the West needs to Know”. It deals with the increase of Islamic populations in the west and the problems it can bring. In parts it seems a little over the top but it is very interesting. The fact that Islamic leaders in Britain and Europe as well as Australia can get away with saying outlandishly crazy things shows that Islam anywhere seems to be extreme and at odds with Western values. The so called moderate Muslims are either ignored by the media or simply do not exist.

  4. comment number 4 by: Sonagi

    I’m hesitant to point this out, but the US’ large Muslim population has been left out of this debate. I wonder if the post 9-11 atmosphere and Patriot Act have quieted US Muslim leaders who might otherwise make extremists statements.

  5. comment number 5 by: Matt

    I’m hesitant to point this out, but the US’ large Muslim population has been left out of this debate. I wonder if the post 9-11 atmosphere and Patriot Act have quieted US Muslim leaders who might otherwise make extremists statements.

    I don’t know. I get the feeling America is more demanding of its citizens than we are. Essentially “multiculturism” is the official ideology of the state (like communism was the ideology of the Soviet Union) and deviance is not allowed. Potentially the professor quoted above could be put on trial by HREOC, the non-representative organisation responsible for enforcing state ideology. Think along the lines of the inquisition, because they also offer mercy for those that recant.

  6. comment number 6 by: beechtreem

    Another fine example of racism! Linking crime and ethnicity is inherently racist and illogical, just as deducing that the ethnic-German population is a threat to Jews, Muslims, and Asians based on the activities of a few neo-Nazi groups. While it makes sense to focus on the crimes and the motivations behind them, it is contemptible to participate in a campaign of wholesale defamation of the Muslim population.

    Professor Israeli told the Herald that was a misunderstanding. But he said: “When the Muslim population gets to a critical mass you have problems. That is a general rule, so if it applies everywhere it applies in Australia.”

    Mr. Israeli is a racist. As to “Jews don’t use violence”, he need only take a glance at the history of the expansion of Israel to see just how contradictory to reality his statement is.

    “The trains in London and Madrid were not blown up by Christians or Buddhists but by Muslims, so it is them we have to beware,” he said

    There is clear evidence that the Madrid and London bombings were covert operations carried out by the respective intelligence agencies of those countries. As reported in the London Times

    THE man accused of supplying the dynamite used in the al-Qaeda train bombings in Madrid was in possession of the private telephone number of the head of Spain’s Civil Guard bomb squad, it emerged yesterday. The revelation has raised fresh concerns in Madrid about links between those held responsible for the March bombings, which killed 190 people, and Spain’s security services, and shortcomings in the police investigation.

    7/7 masterminds were also working for British intelligence MI5 and MI6. see link: http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2006/270606londonbomber.htm
    9/11, as by now most Americans suspect (85%) according to recent polls, was not the attack it appeared to be. The US not only knew in advance, it is likely that they orchestrated it, using the Muslim hijackers as patsies. Establishing its pretext for an endless ‘war on terror’ which Australia under Howard happily supports. If you fall into the stupidity of believing this is a war between Islam and the West, thats because they want you to. Muslims are fine upstanding people and most violence in the world today originates in Western states among policy-devisors who happen to be ‘white’.