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Just in case you think I have double standards…

April 30th, 2006 . by Matt

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Some readers might think I have a double standard towards Koreans vis a vis Japanese, that I do not call Japanese on things when I think something is wrong. Someone pointed to my article called ‘Anti Foreigner feeling in Korea‘, and said that I would not have written anything if it were about Japan. In fact, I hold all people to exactly the same standards, it is just that on issues like the article I wrote about, it is more of a problem for Koreans than it is for Japanese.

That being said, I have called Japanese people on racist stuff, when I come across it. A while back I came across a Japanese BBS for Japanese students studying in America, and it was filled with hatred for American men, accusing them of all kinds of things like ‘tricking’ Japanese girls, and much worse. The ‘love/romance’ section of the BBS was filled with warnings against Japanese girls dating American men. I am not an American man, but I was shocked by the vitriol on that BBS. Of course, the BBS in entirely in Japanese and there were no Americans there to counter what was being written. Again, I am not American but I felt that their prejudicial assumptions had to be countered, and since I can read and write Japanese, I felt that person would have to be me as no one else was doing anything.

I started a thread called “It seems that a jaundiced view of Americans is being taken…”, with the username of furyou gaijin 不良外人 (bad foreigner). Here is what I initially wrote below.

あ~皆さん、第一投稿の不良外人です。

いろいろ恋愛に関するレスを読ませて頂きました。僕はアメリカ人ではないのだけど(オーストラリア人)、投稿をさせて頂きます。

アメリカ人のナンパはけっこう非難されるけども、なぜでしょう? 声をかけたくらいでどこが悪い? もし気に入らないのだったらその場で拒否したら多くの人はすぐ消えますよ。 ちなみにナンパ大国の日本のナンパはもっとシツコイんじゃない? 道の角どこでもナンパ師が待っているような国ですし。って思って。他に「外人に騙された!」という文句もいっぱいありましたね。もちろん誰だって騙される可能性があるのだが、ここに書いてある文句は違う気がします。まず、騙されていたという女の子が相手の性格を知ろうとしないですぐエッチしちゃうから相手の目的を分からないんじゃないの? 日本でもワケわからない人とやっちゃたら同じような目に合うでしょ。つまり日本では当たり前なことでアメリカ人を批判したらおかしく思います。

とういうか、SFでは日本人男性より日本人女性の割合が全然高くて日本人男性はやりまくり天国です。 それは話題にならないからひがみを感じます。

Which basically questions their assumptions about American men. There followed a long debate, but a lot of Japanese people came out in support of me, which was a big change to what the BBS was like before. Read the rest for yourself.

I think that BBS is basically an exception that does not represent any common thought process among Japanese. There are certainly no articles in the Japanese mass media denouncing foreign men like the article in my post ‘Anti Foreigner feeling in Korea‘, linked above, or like this one either. Nor do expressions of interest in Japanese language and culture elicit the kind of angry reactions that occur when expressing interest in Korean language and culture.

I will take on whatever I see when I see it, but honestly, I dont think Japanese people will ever provide me with the kind of material or personal experiences that Koreans do. There is just no comparison.


14 Responses to “Just in case you think I have double standards…”

  1. comment number 1 by: Errol

    Matt, I compliment you on your strategy to combat the argumentum ad hominen crowd.

    Now what will you do to tackle the
    argumentum ad verecundiam crew?

    If logic upsets the status quo they will use any trick in the book.

    Check out this article.

    Income inequality is not a factor in prostitution in Korea?

    Poor men are not prostituted in large numbers. So there are other forces at work, such as gender inequality and discrimination that subjugate women and girls as a class, and the demand for prostituted women, which fuels the trade in women’s bodies.

  2. comment number 2 by: empraptor

    Sorry this comment is not going to be related to the blog entry. I suppose it does have to do with media censorship/spin.

    Hello. Any American liberals here feeling frustrated [to say the least] from 6 years of Bush, Republican Congress, voting scandals, Fox News, etc.?

    http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/04/29.html#a8104
    http://www.haloscan.com/comments.php?user=atrios&comment=114636498071226126

    Colbert ripped a hole in the Bush Administration and the press that suck its ego, from what I can read. He was the comic guest at this year’s White House Correspondents Dinner. I guess whoever in charge of finding the guest thought Colbert’s show was real.

    It was two days ago, but of course I’ve been living in the engineering building so I didn’t know. I don’t have a TV anyway.

    I don’t have sound here so I can’t watch it but just reading the quotes and comments woke me up with a jolt.

    “Fox News gives you two sides to every story: the president’s side and the vice president’s side.”

    “Go home, write that novel you’ve been meaning to write, the one about the idealistic reporter who stands up to the White House.” (paraphrase) [Colbert to White House Correspondents]

    [says one commenter of White House Correspondents’ cold reception of Colbert’s act]

    [so says a conspiracy nut]

    , says one commenter from second link. That made me laugh even more. Fox News can dish it out but can’t take it. I wish I could see Rupert Murdoch’s reaction to this.

    I want to thank Colbert for saying all these things that no one in the mainstream media wants to say and so bluntly. But I fear for his career.

    I wouldn’t put it past the bunch of lying thugs Bush commands to cause Colbert’s downfall. Then Fox News can finally air the CPAN clips they cut short to point out where it all went wrong with Colbert, shake their heads in feigned disbelief then shit on his name by going on to say he somehow deserved what was coming to him by not playing ball.

  3. comment number 3 by: empraptor

    [Sorry I used “greater-than” and “less-than” signs to put comments in.]

    I don’t have sound here so I can’t watch it but just reading the quotes and comments woke me up with a jolt.

    “Fox News gives you two sides to every story: the president’s side and the vice president’s side.”

    “Go home, write that novel you’ve been meaning to write, the one about the idealistic reporter who stands up to the White House.” (paraphrase) [Colbert to White House Correspondents]

    (Bush is plastered.)

    (Bush is cancelling next year’s appearance. He’s PISSED.)

    (Bush brushed off Helen [Thomas] when he came onto the dais. This will make him put out a hit on the poor woman. F***ing brilliant.=)

    (This is scaring me.)

    (I rolling on the floor, dogs think I’m nuts.)

    (How is he getting out of there tonight?)

    (Jesus I hope he has a food taster-and a bulletproof vest.)

    (Prediction: an attempt is made to keep Colbert from getting guests, some sort of silly blacklisting. Odds?)

    (President AWOL stomped out like a spoiled brat.)

    (Of course they failed to respond. He told them to their faces they suck at their jobs and their only skill is unquestioned obeisance to a staggeringly unpopular man who’s proven himself completely divorced from reality.) [says one commenter of White House Correspondents’ cold reception of Colbert’s act]

    (Wait just a fudcin minute. Did the pres just walk out of the correspondents’ dinner. ????? Ithink hedid, and I think there is pandemonium, Do I see this Right? Did he and laurabot walk out before the speaker did his thang? Did they freak out over Colbert–which was incendiary and beyond awsome. Am I not gettting what/s going on?)

    (This is another Karl Rove special, now real Americans can see the hatred MSM and the liberal elitist have for the USA and President George W Bush.) [so says a conspiracy nut]

    (Looks like Laurabot wouldn’t shake Colbert’s hand and he ended up kind of bowing to her! LOL!)

    (Am I misreading it or did Colbert actually make several “f*** you” gestures to Scalia? Mama mia!)

    (It’s sickening, the response of the media personalities to Colbert’s performance. This should be enough proof for anyone that the Washington press corps is too close to the political powers.)

    (Fox News cut him off after a few minutes), says one commenter from second link.

  4. comment number 4 by: empraptor

    http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002425363

    An article about Colbert’s Bush “tribute”.

  5. comment number 5 by: empraptor

    Apparently the American mainstream media aren’t covering Colbert’s performance. I suppose I was expecting too much of them if I thought they were going to.

    Again, I don’t have a TV. I’m just going by other people’s opinions and three mainstream media’s websites’ front page.

    Mainstream media ignoring Colbert’s performance?

    I found a link to the performance that occurred before Colbert’s. But not any of Colbert’s on mainstream national news site front page.

    Of course, thanks to that page I found this gem showing how some press saw 1000’s of war protesters whereas people who were there and photos tell of a demonstration consisting of 300,000 people who covered over 10 city blocks.

  6. comment number 6 by: eli

    empraptor, get your own blog

  7. comment number 7 by: empraptor

    Well, nobody comes to my homepage. I hoped someone here would appreciate this as much as I did. Colbert’s criticism of Bush and media and their reaction.

    I’m sure some people here can see how this relates to this blog? Even a little bit? No? Well, call me crazy from sleep deprivation, but I was laughing myself to death. Did you watch the video? I was just reading the transcript so I’m sure the video’s much funnier. Refreshing, I should rather say, given the crap American national news has been feeding us.

  8. comment number 8 by: dogbert

    Apparently the American mainstream media aren’t covering Colbert’s performance. I suppose I was expecting too much of them if I thought they were going to.

    Actually, “60 Minutes” just did a segment on Colbert this week.

  9. comment number 9 by: Matt

    Well, nobody comes to my homepage.

    Ah, how quickly the young forget.

  10. comment number 10 by: empraptor

    Did “60 Minutes” mention Colbert’s performance from the White House Correspondence Dinner? Doesn’t “60 Minutes” record their interviews and air them Sunday? Something tells me it’s just about Colbert himself and not about his performance on C-SPAN.

    I’m not young. I’m as old as people get. After which they’re either dead or dead on the inside.

  11. comment number 11 by: Rosencrance

    I like Colbert as well, but it’s snarky entertainment.

    Colbert is a rare gem because he can bitingly lampoon what the US media can’t or won’t touch. But this is a reflection of the populace, since the US media (like Colbert) are playing for their respective audiences.

    Fear not for Colbert. As long as he has an audience, he’ll have a voice.

    This string really diverges from the subject.

    다음에 나는 삼천포로 빠지자.

  12. comment number 12 by: Rosencrance

    he he he, meant

    다음에 나는 삼천포로 빠지지 않다.

  13. comment number 13 by: dogbert

    Did “60 Minutes” mention Colbert’s performance from the White House Correspondence Dinner? Doesn’t “60 Minutes” record their interviews and air them Sunday? Something tells me it’s just about Colbert himself and not about his performance on C-SPAN.

    That’s correct…there was nothing about the C-SPAN performance in the piece.

  14. comment number 14 by: tomato

    朝鮮文字可読不能!
    用可是英語。謝謝。