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Korean-born Actor to Play Sulu? It’s illogical.

October 20th, 2007 . by Gerry-Bevers

John Cho has gotten the part of Sulu in “Star Trek XI,” due out on December 25, 2008. I know Cho from “Harold & Kumar Go to White Castle,” which was one of the funniest movies I have ever seen, but, honestly, I really cannot see Cho as Sulu. It should be interesting. 

“Star Trek Casting: Simon Pegg as Scotty, John Cho as Sulu; Budget $150M+”

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24 Responses to “Korean-born Actor to Play Sulu? It’s illogical.”

  1. comment number 1 by: empraptor

    Your title doesn’t make sense. Having been born in Korea is no reason he should not play Sulu. If you had meant previous roles Cho took on does not jive with Sulu, it’d have been more logical to name him rather than his place of birth.

    Maybe you’re confusing Sulu with Spock? Now with Spock the “Korea-born” and “illogical” would have played better, making reference to the running gag on this blog that Koreans are irrational also to Spock’s whiny complaint that everyone else is illogical.

  2. comment number 2 by: The Overthinker

    Or if it’s about Asian from X playing Asian from Y (as in, “Why, they all look alike!”) then Trek has a long history of it: Miles O’Brien’s “Japanese” wife was played by a Chinese(-American), Hoshi Sato (what kind of name is Hoshi?) was played by a (very hot) Korean, etc. And for that matter, though Takei was of Japanese ancestry, and “Hikaru” is a Japanese name, “Sulu” is definitely not. Some have suggested it’s a Philippines name, and that Sulu is quite the multi-ethnic person. Fitting, for Trek.

    And far from “looking alike,” CHo looks nothing like Takei. You couldn’t get two chins less alike….

  3. comment number 3 by: arthurbliss

    yeah, your title does not make any sense.

    c’mon, it is like saying Renne Zelleger
    playing british role (Bridget jones’ diary, miss potter etc) is illogical because she is Texan.

    um, can you explain why it is ilogical about this?

  4. comment number 4 by: kjeff

    George Takei is of Japanese ancestry, but I don’t think Sulu was, at least not in the original series. The first name ‘Hikaru’ was not introduced until 1981. Well, George Takei had his say,

    Sulu’s in good hands. John Cho is an exciting actor. I’ve seen Cho in many productions at East West Players and he always brings a vigorous sense of individuality to his roles. Under the leadership of J.J. Abrams, the Star Trek franchise is being infused with new energy and I hope John Cho plays a critical part for many years — and films — to come.

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    Empraptor,

    Maybe you’re confusing Sulu with Spock? Now with Spock the “Korea-born” and “illogical” would have played better, making reference to the running gag on this blog that Koreans are irrational also to Spock’s whiny complaint that everyone else is illogical.

    Good one Empraptor…

  5. comment number 5 by: GarlicBreath

    Sulu, when the character was created was a great addition to the Enterprise. When Star Trek began, America (Kirk) and American black women (Uhura)Russia (Chekov) Japan (Sulu) and Old Europe (Scotty) as well as aliens (Spock) were represented. It was a mini UN. It was the world of the future.
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    Nowadays George Takei is very open about being a homosexual. I think John Cho, is a perfect match. John Cho looks and acts like a gay like Takei, no offence to gays. (he is married and I don’t know if he really is a gay).
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    This is the worst move that the StarTrek series made since creating Voyager.

  6. comment number 6 by: Brian

    Your title doesn’t make sense. Having been born in Korea is no reason he should not play Sulu. If you had meant previous roles Cho took on does not jive with Sulu, it’d have been more logical to name him rather than his place of birth.

    Right on. We all know Gerry is looking through the lens of his biased perception. To Gerry, logic = negative inferences about Korea.

  7. comment number 7 by: Brian

    and what the hell is Garlic-face talking about? Once again… a Delusional mind, ladies and gentlemen! lol. Do you even have any credibility anymore?

  8. comment number 8 by: arthurbliss

    here goes garlic breath’s another senseless words.

    Sulu, when the character was created was a great addition to the Enterprise. When Star Trek began, America (Kirk) and American black women (Uhura)Russia (Chekov) Japan (Sulu) and Old Europe (Scotty) as well as aliens (Spock) were represented. It was a mini UN. It was the world of the future.
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    Nowadays George Takei is very open about being a homosexual. I think John Cho, is a perfect match. John Cho looks and acts like a gay like Takei, no offence to gays. (he is married and I don’t know if he really is a gay).

    Roddenberry, producer of star trek, envisioned a character that represent whole asia (not just japan), so he decided to name this asian character “Sulu”, from Sulu sea in philippine.
    sure, his first name is japanese but it was not official until star trek vi. so Garlic breath’s comment about representing mini-UN is really moronic.

    i am also appalled by his comment about Takei being gay and john cho acting like gay. well, sure you can make that kind of comment, but that kind of commnet will not get you far in debate and people will laugh at you. c’mon, you have nothing to argue so you talk about Takei being gay? too sad and pathetic.

  9. comment number 9 by: ponta.

    To Gerry, logic = negative inferences about Korea.

    Does the title suggest something negative about Korea?
    The title reads.

    Korean-born Actor to Play Sulu? It’s illogical.

    Supposing, for the sake of argument, that the title is illogical, it is the star trek producer is illogical, not Korea.
    Ad hominem attack is illogical.

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  10. comment number 10 by: Gerry-Bevers

    If anyone can get beyond my title and read what I wrote, they should be able to figure out that I do not think John Cho fits the part of Sulu. As I wrote, I can only remember seeing John Cho in one movie, which was a comedy, so it is hard for me to imagine him playing a more serious role. That is the only reason I used “illogical” in my title, besides also wanting to use the Spock quote.

    I posted the news item simply because I like “Star Trek,” and because John Cho is Korean-American, I thought the news was suitable for this blog, which seems to deal mainly with Korean and Japanese issues.

  11. comment number 11 by: arthurbliss

    alright Gerry Bevers, I see your point.

    but the title was misleading.
    John Cho’s place of birth is not relevant to whether he is fit for the role or not, and it would had been more logical to name the actor than place of his birth.

  12. comment number 12 by: kjeff

    Gerry,
    Your explanation would make sense if the title were “John Cho to play Sulu? It’s illogical”. Here “John Cho” might be misinterpreted as referring to his ancestry, and not, as you explained, his previous roles. Thus, there’s a need to “get beyond the title.” But, “Korean-born”? That’s pretty obvious, no? I think most would take it as…it’s illogical for a Korean-born actor to play a Japanese-ancestry(as explained previously, incorrect) role.

  13. comment number 13 by: GarlicBreath

    i am also appalled by his comment about Takei being gay

    I really don’t care if George or John is gay. But George makes it a point to discuss it to the media. Like MSNBC.

    Arthur, are you corean? You seem to blow your top at any comment about Corea.

  14. comment number 14 by: Gerry-Bevers

    I doubt that “Star Trek XI” will be the last Star Trek movie, unless it really bombs, so people may have to get used to these new faces for the Enterprise crew.

  15. comment number 15 by: GarlicBreath

    Good point Mr Bevers. I think the choice was illogical. I think I will skip Kimchi trek.

  16. comment number 16 by: T_K

    I don’t mind Cho. At least he’s a decent actor. I’m more concerned about the guy who’s supposed to play Spock.

  17. comment number 17 by: GarlicBreath

    I don’t mind Cho. At least he’s a decent actor

    I have never really seen him “act”. I didn’t think that his role in white castle was funny at all. He just kind of stood there for two hours looking the exact same in each scene. However, their needs to be more asian actors in hollywood, just not guys like John cho. I think there is enough asian asexual sterotypes like Takai and John Cho.

  18. comment number 18 by: alec931

    Oh Bevey. I notice more and more you like to post ambiguous things, such as the title of this blog entry (Korean-born Actor to Play Sulu? It’s illogical.) and follow up with an ‘explanation’ in the comments section while taking cheap shots at people who deviate from your views.
    Anyway, I’m sorry to hear this Bevey. I know these kind of stories (news about Korea or Koreans with no mention of anything bad) make you sad 🙁
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    Gorlicbreath, I think you need to stop chewing on lead paint…..your posts are getting more and more retarded.

  19. comment number 19 by: randomcow

    I think if there was ever pogroms against the Koreans, the best way to weed them out would be to make them read titles like the one Gerry posted. All the people who got angry, didn’t understand the cleverness of the title, or didn’t at least chuckle could be safely branded as Korean, and pitchforked to death.

    RC

  20. comment number 20 by: GarlicBreath

    , the best way to weed them out would be to make them read titles like the one Gerry posted. All the people who got angry, didn’t understand the cleverness of the title, or didn’t at least chuckle could be safely branded as Korean, and pitchforked to death.

    RC

    hilarious and spot on! Just look at lil’als comment for proof.

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    I know these kind of stories (news about Korea or Koreans with no mention of anything bad) make you sad

    Lil’al, why are you so angry? Mr Bevers title was funny and ironic considering how much Coreans hate japanese.
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    If you wan’t to hear praise about corea, just talk to a corean. They will be happy to tell you all about how the whole world loves and worships them. They will even tell you that they are the “real” sourse of japanese culture.

  21. comment number 21 by: alec931

    Gorlic, how am I angry?
    P.S. stop snacking on lead paint chips.

  22. comment number 22 by: samanalysis

    The quality of the actor is far more important than his race. John Cho is a reasonable choice — while I’m sure there are other (perhaps superior) actors out there, Sulu is something of a supporting role.

    Even though Sulu’s first name was introduced in the 80’s, the tv series had made it pretty clear that Sulu was Japanese at one point when he was dressed as a samurai.

    Garlicbreath, you comment about George Takei being gay is a complete non sequitur.

  23. comment number 23 by: GarlicBreath

    The quality of the actor is far more important than his race.

    Are you suggesting that they could have a black guy play a young sulu as long as he was a good actor? I don’t get your point? Race isn’t important as long as he is a certain race (asian)?

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    Garlicbreath, you comment about George Takei being gay is a complete non sequitur.

    Just pointing out a fact. But I think its relative to the role of Sulu. Takei and cho are effeminate, actors.

    Roddenberry, producer of star trek, envisioned a character that represent whole asia (not just japan), so he decided to name this asian character “Sulu”, from Sulu sea in philippine.

    Did you get that from wikipedia? You should have put a link in there, so people can see where you get your information.

  24. comment number 24 by: empraptor

    I did get past the title. I think I was pretty clear that the title doesn’t make sense. I did not criticize the content.

    And I don’t think anyone pointed out how I called Spock whiny about calling people illogical when I was doing the same to Gerry. Come on, guys. I’m funny. Laugh.

    Why anyone thinks sexual orientation matters when talking about Takei’s job performance and that of his successor is beyond me. Straight men play gay characters and vice versa. I hear these actor types can… act.