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Massacre at Virginia Tech University

April 16th, 2007 . by Matt

Crazy.

Questions are flying in the wake of the bloodiest school shooting in United States history, after a gunman killed at least 32 people before committing suicide.

The killing spree on Virginia Tech campus also left at least 28 people injured.

Alana Fraga, a 20-year-old Sydney student at the college, told smh.com.au how she was about to leave her apartment 500 metres from where the shooting took place, when an email alert sounded on her computer.

“It said, ‘The gunman is loose on campus and stay put where you are’,” she said.

But others did not receive the warning in time.

According to unconfirmed reports, the gunman went from classroom to classroom, shooting students as he went.

Trey Perkins, who was sitting in a German class in Norris Hall, told The Washington Post that the gunman barged into the room at about 9.50am (2350 AEST) and opened fire for about a minute and a half, squeezing off 30 shots in all.

The gunman, Perkins said, first shot the professor in the head and then fired on the students.

Gunman ‘very serious but very calm’

Perkins said the gunman was about 19 and had a “very serious but very calm look on his face”.

“Everyone hit the floor at that moment,” said Perkins, 20, a second-year student studying mechanical engineering. “And the shots seemed like it lasted forever.”

Students bitterly complained that there were no public-address announcements on campus after the first shots.

Many said the first word from the university was an email more than two hours into the rampage – around the time the gunman struck again.

“I think the university has blood on their hands because of their lack of action after the first incident,” said Billy Bason, 18, who lives on the seventh floor of the dorm.

“If you had apprehended a suspect, I could understand having classes even after two of your students have perished. But when you don’t have a suspect in a college environment and to put the students in a situation where they’re congregated in large numbers in open buildings, that’s unacceptable to me.”

I think I have a possible perp. If he disagrees that he is the perp, he can let me know. Since the perp shot himself in the head, if we do not hear from him, I think we have a good chance of this being the guy. He goes to Virginia Tech, according to his facebook page.

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UPDATE 1: Perp ID’ed by police but identity not announced.

UPDATE 2: Some people on the blog of the guy pictured above are claiming that he is alive and well, and enjoying the attention of people thinking that he is the perp. Obviously, we will not know until either he or the police says something.

UPDATE 3: Guy pictured above says he is “coming out” as not being the shooter on his blog.

Coming out. I am not the shooter. Through this experience, I have received numerous death threats, slanderous accusations, and my phone is out of charge from the barrage of calls. Local police have been notified of the situation.

My original intention was to wait until I got AdSense on my site and donating all the proceeds to Charity. However, this situation has now spiraled out of control. I am now confirming that I am not the shooter. I will be available for interview by a news agency to clear my name, talk about the experience, and give my opinion on how the situation could have turned out better if other students were allowed to be armed. I will only speak with individuals who are interested in donating to charities resulting from today’s events. Please e-mail all correspondence to [email protected]

Shout out to SASS & AR15 VAHTF who have stood by me through this experience.

UPDATE 4: Possible second gunman. Does not look likely now.

UPDATE 5: Virginia Tech students tell of their experiences through the net.

UPDATE 6: More info on the shootings. Looks like the guy killed his ex-GF and her new BF.

A JILTED boyfriend killed 32 people on a US college campus yesterday.

In the country’s worst ever school massacre, the maniac — who also shot himself dead — burst in brandishing two 9mm automatic handguns and an “ungodly” amount of ammunition.

Students said he first killed his ex and her new lover at Virginia Tech University, Blacksburg. The slaughter began at 7.15am when the gunman opened fire in a dormitory.

Pupils were ordered to remain indoors as cops swarmed in.

But two hours later the killer re-emerged in the university’s engineering building and began firing indiscriminately into classrooms.

Last night he was said to be a 24-year-old Chinese man who arrived in the US a year ago on a student visa.

One of the dormitory victims was named locally as student Ryan Clark, who died with an unnamed woman.

Fifteen more students were still being treated in hospital last night.

The Sun article strongly suggests the man in the picture below is the new BF.

new bf

UPDATE 7: Wayne Chiang, the guy I indicated as a possible shooter, has spoken to the media.

He is Asian, he lived in the dorm where the first shooting occurred and he recently broke up with his girlfriend — he also happens to have a web blog packed with pictures in which he poses with firearms. On the Internet, Wayne Chiang is as good as convicted.

He has received 37,000 hits on his Web site over the past several hours, many containing death threats, he says.

“Right now pretty much the Internet thinks it is me, Chiang told ABC News. “I am just interested in trying to clear my name.

“It was five for five. I was Asian, I lived in (the dorm), I go to V Tech, I recently broke up with my girlfriend and I collect guns,” Chiang, who initially contacted ABC affiliate KNXV.

Three separate federal sources have told ABC News that Chiang is not a suspect or a person of interest in their investigation.

A quick browse through his Web site, however, makes the coincidence that has triggered the avalanche of email to his site almost understandable. Chiang posts pictures of his H&K semi-automatic weapons, poses draped in at least a half dozen Russian rifles, and shows himself looking down the sights of another weapon. He also recounts his recent breakup with another Virginia Tech student.

“I am a federally licensed firearms collector,” Chiang said. He said that numerous media organizations had told him he was a person of interest in the investigation but that no authorities had contacted him. Nor had he contacted any authorities.

The Chantilly, Va., resident is passionate about his right to bear arms, concealed weapons included. And thinks that carrying them on campus is OK.

“I am a firm believer that if Virginia tech students were allowed to conceal carry this situation could have ended sooner.”

For pointing out a very likely suspect, some foolish commenter on the Marmots Hole called me “racist”.

UPDATE 8: This article in the SMH indicates that the man that the Sun article strongly suggested was the new boyfriend was just a victim and had nothing to do with the perps romance problems.

UPDATE 9 – Shocking: The perp is a South Korean foreign student permanent resident Kyopo named Cho Seung-Hui.

Blacksburg, Virginia – The gunman at the centre of Monday’s school shooting in the US state of Virginia has been identified as a 23-year-old South Korean national who was a senior undergraduate student at the college.

Virginia Tech police chief Wendall Flinchum told reporters on Tuesday that the gunman had been postively identified as Cho Seung- Hui.

UPDATE 10: Information on the perp’s ex-GF. She was the first one that was killed. Ryan Clark, the black man pictured above, was not her new BF.

Emily J. Hilscher, 18, a freshman from Woodville in Rappahannock County, Virginia and the murderer’s girlfriend.

Ryan C. Clark, 22, a senior from Augusta, Georgia. A resident adviser at the West Ambler Johnston Hall Dormitory, he was killed in the dormitory as he rushed over to investigate what was going on when he came upon the gunman, according to a student who lives on the fourth floor, where the first shootings took place.

Here is a picture of the perp’s ex-GF, Emily J. Hilscher.

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UPDATE 11: A picture of the perp has been discovered.

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UPDATE 12: Another picture of the perp from ABC News. The pictures look pretty different but it could be a matter of hairstyle and distance from the camera.

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UPDATE 13: South Korean Foreign Minister convenes emergency meeting on shootings.

South Korean Foreign Minister Song Min-soon convened an emergency meeting Tuesday night to discuss the U.S. campus shooting rampage after reports that a Korean citizen is suspected to kill more than 30 people in the incident.

There is no further details about the meeting. A senior official of the ministry said late Tuesday that the South Korean government expresses “undescribable surprise and shock” over the shooting and delivers console to the injured and the families of the victims of the incident.

The government and the South Korean embassy in U.S. was keepinga close contact over the issue and will take measures to protect South Koreans in the United State, the official said.


89 Responses to “Massacre at Virginia Tech University”

  1. comment number 1 by: Ken

    Here is the site to join the funeral for the victims at Virginia Tech Univ.
    ttp://www.foxnews.com
    (Prefix ‘h’ at the beginning.)

  2. comment number 2 by: jion999

    sayuri

    The translation of the manga on Chosun Ilbo:
    http://news.naver.com/hotissue/read_cartoon.php?mode=LSS2D&office_id=081&article_id=0000129645

    President Bush
    “33 people in one time!”
    “The knockout performance of our technology of weapons was proved again.”

    by Korean…….

    自爆 (笑)

  3. comment number 3 by: jion999

    There are many terrible mangas of Koreans about this massacre.
    http://www.enjoykorea.jp/tbbs/read.php?board_id=ttalk&nid=664862

  4. comment number 4 by: madboots

    Massacre by gunfire again!?
    What a crazy country!
    I don’t understand why US people don’t make a more effort to get rid of guns for themselves. As long as guns are legally permitted and are available to everyone in the country, America will have a similar tragedy again. This incident might bring another Anti-Korea sentiments to USA, but US people mustn’t forget that it was mainly due to the abnormality of their own gun society.
    It’s true that USA is more advanced than my country, Japan in many ways, but I think it is much less advanced in this respect.

    Anyhow, I hope that all the victims rest in peace and all the families and friends of them could overcome the sadness early.

  5. comment number 5 by: HanComplex

    Michael at the Metropolitician has written a long but interesting analytical piece on the topic of Cho. He’s an academic and I like his approach on the subject. He also cites from personal experience on why many Korean male university students seem to have difficulty adjusting to life overseas.

    Several years ago, I was with a group of university administrators being given a tour by the US State Department, hosted by Fulbright Korea, and being given a tour by a respected mentor of mine when several of the administrators stopped to ask a question that seemed to be burning at them for some time.

    “Why is it that Korean male students seem to have the most trouble adjusting to life in the US?”

    Kind of surprised, but yet not, I and my mentor pressed further, and they explained that the students who had the most disciplinary problems of all their international students were Korean males. These representatives of large state universities all then cited incident after incident of Korean males threatening Korean students seen walking with a foreign man (a graduate student walking with her black professor – she received dozens of insults and death threats on her answering machine), physical conflicts with other graduate students over simple matters, and a some domestic violence in cases of Korean couples living on campus.

    In that conversation, what came out is that many Korean men felt displaced and disempowered as males who lived in a society that catered to them, while in the US, those forms of automatic power and status – being male, rich, or having come from Seoul National University – mean nothing. And at the same time, Korean women experience a social liberalization compared to where they would often be in Korea; many Korean female friends and colleagues of mine who studied in the US cited how they felt constricted and uncomfortable (부담) when a Korean male would end up in a seminar with them, because often, the man would expect them to acknowledge or “respect” (인정) them. When they didn’t receive it, and often were dressed down by people younger than them or female, or by the professor in front of the class, they often felt particularly frustrated.

    And that is just about all I’ll say on that.

    Quite a lengthy opinion piece, but very much worth reading. Check it out.
    http://metropolitician.blogs.com/scribblings_of_the_metrop/2007/04/the_politics_of.html

  6. comment number 6 by: mitaker

    Korean hwabyeonging? Glad he wasn’t going around killing Japanese people.

  7. comment number 7 by: Phil2Musashi

    I think it would be sad to let this turn into a issue about “Koreans”. But I do think it is incredibly ironic give the nature of this website that the perp turned out to be Korean.

    HOWEVER, we should NOT use him as an example to hate on Koreans.

    We have yet to have any evidence that his culture/ethnicity/race/nationality etc had anything to do with the horrible decision he made.

  8. comment number 8 by: morrellgym

    HanComplex
    The writing that you have linked, while interesting, doesn’t really seem to apply to the VaTech shooting.

    The shooter came to the US when he was very young, 8 years old. I imagine that he was much more “American” than Korean, and wouldn’t have had the troubles described.

  9. comment number 9 by: jion999

    morrellgym

    If kyopo makes great performance, Koreans are proud of the greatness of Korean race usually. If kyopo carried out the incident of spree killing, Koreans say, “He is an American.” (笑)

  10. comment number 10 by: egg

    Again I would like to say I will support Newshound and Phil2Musashi.

  11. comment number 11 by: sarahnade

    [url=http://news.naver.com/news/read.php?mode=LSS2D&office_id=146&article_id=0000011109&section_id=104&section_id2=232&menu_id=104]http://news.naver.com/news/read.php?mode=L…amp;menu_id=104[/url]

    the parents of the killer committed suicide. the dad slit his wrists and died of blood loss, the mom overdosed…she’s not dead, but she’s in critical condition and is expected to die soon… *sigh* all of this is such a tragedy.

  12. comment number 12 by: GarlicBreath

    Koreanjeff,

    Hines ward and Michelle Wei are Korean blood
    , like me.

    But Cho is American and he did this because he was too American.

    That is what I have heard from Koreans. 33 people have died from the hands of a Korean like yourself. When will I hear my appology.

  13. comment number 13 by: kjeff

    GarlicBreath,

    That is what I have heard from Koreans

    Read what I wrote earlier, or those are the only Koreans you listened to.

    When will I hear my appology.

    Is there any reasons, that I don’t know of, why I should? I was educated in nyc so I don’t really know directly anyone from Virginia Tech, but my brothers and sisters were/is educated in Md and Va, and they knew several students there; she and and some of her friends went to the memorial this afternoon. And I imagine that it could have been any of them, in any campus for that matter, so again why do I have to apologize to you?

  14. comment number 14 by: HanComplex

    The shooter came to the US when he was very young, 8 years old. I imagine that he was much more “American” than Korean, and wouldn’t have had the troubles described.

    So are you implying that his “American”-ness was more of a factor for his murderous behavior? That sounds like something the Korean press would say, i.e., always shifting the blame on the US or Japan if it’s something unfavorable to them. And as jion999 says, if it’s something positive by an overseas Korean/kyopo, it’s a Korean achievement.
    Anyway, Michael’s take on the matter is more academic than anything, and merely giving his perspective from experience on how cultural background can possibly affect one’s psychology and thought processes. He brings up some important points that are worth pondering.
    One of his readers posted this link about another shooting involving a Korean student from a few years back.
    http://media.www.gwhatchet.com/media/storage/paper332/news/2003/05/01/News/Shooting.Blinds.Umd.Female-430428.shtml

  15. comment number 15 by: kjeff

    HanComplex,

    …the Korean press would say, i.e., always shifting the blame on the US or Japan if it’s something unfavorable to them. And as jion999 says, if it’s something positive by an overseas Korean/kyopo, it’s a Korean achievement.

    Not every Koreans are as you described.

    Anyway, Michael’s take on the matter is more academic than anything, and merely giving his perspective from experience on how cultural background can possibly affect one’s psychology and thought processes. He brings up some important points that are worth pondering.

    I have a suspicion that you misread his points.

  16. comment number 16 by: GarlicBreath

    Koreans only care that some “korean blood” has been spilt.

    KoreanJeff, you will have a new picture to put next to the Korean hero Robert Kim

    33 young people with the whole world of discovery ahead of them..Young innocent..all murdered by a sick evil evil Korean… where is justice.. no apology….Yes there is smug arrogance, as Mr Bevers pointed out with the cartoons. But no apology… the bodies and blood of 33 young Americans, men and women, black, white, Asian.. people of all colors. DEAD. And no apology…..

  17. comment number 17 by: GarlicBreath

    jion99, you are spot on. Almost every Korean acts that way. It is a fact. Just ask any korean about if Michelle Wei is Korean… but this evil murderer Cho, is an American now.

  18. comment number 18 by: Matt

    33 young people with the whole world of discovery ahead of them..Young innocent..all murdered by a sick evil evil Korean… where is justice.. no apology….Yes there is smug arrogance, as Mr Bevers pointed out with the cartoons. But no apology… the bodies and blood of 33 young Americans, men and women, black, white, Asian.. people of all colors. DEAD. And no apology…..

    I think President Roh has actually apologised. To be fair to you, I will accept that when the US apologised multiple times (even the President) for the accidental killings of two schoolgirls by a tank in 2002, the apology was not accepted by Koreans. However, I think Americans are big hearted enough to accept the Korean Presidents apology.

  19. comment number 19 by: kjeff

    GarlicBreath,

    Koreans only care that some “korean blood” has been spilt. KoreanJeff, you will have a new picture to put next to the Korean hero Robert Kim.

    I’d like to believe that you’re deeply affected by this tragedy, personally or otherwise, and this is simply an opportunistic jab of hate towards Korean. And I think Cho Seung-Hui was as American as any White/African/Asian Americans he grew up with and as Korean as myself, and his family members.

  20. comment number 20 by: kjeff

    Those, however, did not cause him to do what he did.

  21. comment number 21 by: egg

    Please everyone, this time it was a Korean. But the next tragety may be caused by a Japanese, Chinese, Australian and else, who knows? It wasn`t the guy`s nationality that made him kill people. (At least I think the opposite claim is not proved till now.) Let us not blame the Korean people in general.

  22. comment number 22 by: kjeff

    Off-topic, but I wonder how the mobsters got a hold of a gun in the Nagasaki mayor’s shooting. P.S. And, it’s just an innocent question, talking about guns and all, not trying to change the subject.

  23. comment number 23 by: egg

    kjeff
    He was reported to be a Yakuza (Japanese mafia). (He seems to have had a economical troubles with the city of Nagasaki.) It is said that they smuggle the guns from Russia, China, and Philippines.
    Not so confident though.

  24. comment number 24 by: GarlicBreath

    Matt thank you for pointing out that Roh has apologised. I will look it up.

    Koreanjeff, you are sick in the head to say thit I am being “opportunistic jab of hate towards Korean”.
    To Koreans like you, anthing less then Korean worship, is hatred.

    33 innocent people have been murdered by an evil evil Korean. Dont blame others.

    I have been hearing over and over that Koreans are proud of this holocost. Koreanjeff, you seem to have no remorse whatsoever for this mass murder killing spree. Have you no shame sir? Have you no face? No remorse for the victoms? (and dont tell me that this Korean guy Cho is the real victom, save that for the Marmot hole)

  25. comment number 25 by: GarlicBreath

    Koreanjeff, quit changing the subject. The healing of this Korean-made genocide must begin. I will help with the the healing. But the healing cannot begin until there is a sincere apology. Roh didnt make an apology. He blamed the USA. But at lease in part he accepted that all Koreans are to blame for this.

    Roh offers deep condolence to U.S.
    By Yoo Cheong-mo
    SEOUL, April 18 (Yonhap) — President Roh Moo-hyun said Wednesday that he and the entire nation were shocked by a massacre at a U.S. university by a South Korean student, offering his condolences to the United States.

    “I and the entire South Korean nation were severely shocked by the tragic incident that occurred at Virginia Tech two days ago. We feel a deep bitterness,” Roh said during a new conference held after his summit with Italian Prime Minister Romano Prodi at his office, Cheong Wa Dae.

    “I want to deliver my sincere words of consolation to the families of the killed and injured and all U.S. people. I wish U.S. society would quickly overcome its sorrow and regain calmness.”
    Earlier in the day, Roh presided over an emergency meeting of his aides at Cheong Wa Dae to discuss measures to cope with the fallout from the massacre.

    South Korea was shocked to learn that the gunman in the Virginia Tech massacre was identified as a 23-year-old South Korean student named Cho Seung-hui and fear its negative impact on South Korea-U.S. relations. In the deadliest shooting rampage in modern U.S. history, 33 people, including Cho, were killed.

    The president issued two messages of condolence over the Virginia Tech massacre on Tuesday.

    The Cheong Wa Dae meeting was also attended by Foreign Minister Song Min-soon.

    “Roh and his aides discussed comprehensive measures to cope with the unprecedented incident,” a Cheong Wa Dae official said.

    “The government will work out measures to prevent a backlash on South Koreans living in the U.S. and minimize the impact on the South Korea-U.S. alliance further strengthened by the conclusion of a bilateral free trade deal,” the official said.

    Roh was not sincere.

  26. comment number 26 by: kjeff

    GarlicBreath,

    I will help with the the healing.

    I guess mass-suicides of all family members of Cho’s(and how many will suffice?), will help with the healing to you. Regretting my thanks to Matt for deleting your earlier obviously-hateful comments that exposed you for who you are. Regarding the ‘jab’, it’s missing a ‘not’ next to ‘simply'(it should be obvious from the previous sentence fragment), been doing that lately, and I’m sorry for the misunderstanding. Otherwise, I really don’t know what you want. Is this some sort of bait in revenge kind of way of Korean’s perceived endless demands of Japan’s apology? I don’t know, but I don’t think sincerity is in your agenda and for that sir, shame on you.

  27. comment number 27 by: sitwell_87

    Matt,

    I think President Roh has actually apologised. To be fair to you, I will accept that when the US apologised multiple times (even the President) for the accidental killings of two schoolgirls by a tank in 2002, the apology was not accepted by Koreans. However, I think Americans are big hearted enough to accept the Korean Presidents apology.

    I doubt Americans even expect an apology from Roh. Why should they? He had nothing to do with it, neither did his government. I think an apology would be a result of years of Koreans going crazy almost every time when an American makes some sort of mistake, demanding for apologies and what not. Truth is, there will be no anti-Korean rallies, nobody will probably be refused service for being Korean, and there won’t be calls to expel Koreans from the United States.

    I think Koreans have gotten so accustomed to judging America over things that have little or no connection with the country, that they expect us to do the same.

    Unfortunately, at first, I was disappointed the American public won’t behave in the same way. But then I realized this is the best thing we could do. Maybe Korean’s could learn from our example and try hard to behave like responsible adults next time they find a reason to rally against America.

    Maybe this could also disprove a belief held by many in Korea that Americans don’t like Koreans. To be honest, they don’t really care about Korea, they just think of it as a place where our troops are, and they probably like us because we protect them. Most Americans have no clue about the absolute hatred many Koreans have towards their country.

  28. comment number 28 by: dogbert

    I don’t want an apology from Roh for Cho — completely unconnected and irrelevant.

    I want an apology from Roh for stirring up cheap anti-American/anti-foreign sentiment whenever he had the chance.

  29. comment number 29 by: sitwell_87

    Dogbert,

    I don’t want an apology from Roh for Cho — completely unconnected and irrelevant.

    I want an apology from Roh for stirring up cheap anti-American/anti-foreign sentiment whenever he had the chance.

    Couldn’t say it better myself

  30. comment number 30 by: dogbert

    I guess mass-suicides of all family members of Cho’s(and how many will suffice?), will help with the healing to you.

    Newsflash: the lie of Cho’s parents’ suicides was a cheap underhanded ploy by Korean-American media to gain sympathy for Cho and his family.

    Don’t drink the Kool Aid.

    FWIW, though, at the time I personally thought that the Columbine killers’ parents should have killed themselves.

  31. comment number 31 by: GarlicBreath

    Healing can never begin until the bitter race-based hatred Koreans hold ends. Healing can never begin until the Koreans accept responcabilty and atone for what they did. Reading the some well known Korean blogs, you can see how the Kyopos blame everyone else for this genocide.

    Roh is right to accept that he and his people are the cause of this genocide of American youth. But his apology can not be accepted as genuine as long as dancing in the streets in celebration of their kimchi-bloodbath.

    Koreanjeff, please …don’t you agree that nobody will benefit from the black hearted Korean hatred that Cho had? The choice is yours Koreanjeff.

    Healing can’t begin until a true genuine apology is made… and I am still waiting..

  32. comment number 32 by: GarlicBreath

    Dogbert you are right, that was fake news by the Korean media to gain sympathy for the family of this EVIL KOREAN. But notice how Koreanjeff tried to link me to their death, as if I were somehow to blame. Blame shifting. We should expect a lot of that in the next few weeks.

  33. comment number 33 by: GarlicBreath

    BTW, I heard a rumor that a lot of Koreans were sending IM’s to each other that this would happen right before it happened. I guess the families of those murdered by this sane Korean killer would have appriciated it if those Koreans would have let other in on what they knew. The blood shed by those 33 is definitly on the hands of the Korean community if this is true.

  34. comment number 34 by: GarlicBreath

    As I said many times already. Koreans would soon claim they are the victim.

    The author Joe Eaton (former hogwon teacher in Korea) Wants to paint the Koreans as the real victim. His wife me kyung is South Korean.

    “It’s like when 9/11 happened,” Ko said. “Arab people are victims even though they didn’t do anything wrong. It’s just the same to me.” Ko said Korean students have been e-mailing and calling each other since the release of Cho’s name this morning. He said he wanted to attend today’s convocation at 2 p.m., where President Bush was scheduled to speak, but friends warned him against it. “People said don’t attend because it could be a bad situation,” he said.

    Ko, who emigrated from South Korea in 2001, and Kim, who emigrated in 2002, were heading home to Annandale, Va., near Washington, where their parents live. “My parents were so worried,” Kim said. “When I left my dorm, I felt like the white kids were staring at me.”

    Jae Kun Lee, a Korean national, also decided to leave. His parents had called him from South Korea, where the shooting is being covered extensively by the media, and expressed concern for his safety.

    Koreans are the real victims, just ask any Korean or ESL teacher married to one.

  35. comment number 35 by: HanComplex

    Dogbert you are right, that was fake news by the Korean media to gain sympathy for the family of this EVIL KOREAN. But notice how Koreanjeff tried to link me to their death, as if I were somehow to blame. Blame shifting. We should expect a lot of that in the next few weeks.

    Yeah, what’s up with that false news report about Cho’s folks committing suicide? Have they been watching too many Arirang soap reruns and decided to put in some dramatic spin into their so-called “news?” Pathetic.

    As for blame-shifting, I’m so used to hearing that it’s not even surprising. What I have yet to hear, though, is accepting responsibility for failures or self-criticism from Koreans. Sadly, maybe not in my lifetime. I guess if your race is superior you’re exempt from all of that.

    In case people missed it, here’s the handy problem-solving flowchart again.

  36. comment number 36 by: kjeff

    Dogbert,

    Don’t drink the Kool Aid.

    I was responding to GarlicBreath’s now-deleted comment. I guess it wouldn’t make sense unless you read it.

  37. comment number 37 by: GTOMR

    Let me know some,
    I can recognize Pic of Update 12 is Mr.CHO.
    The 2 photos on the top with many rifles are Korean Mr.CHO’s photo or wrongly suspected Chinese’s photo?

  38. comment number 38 by: GarlicBreath

    yet more fallout from the Cho Seung Hui.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/usguns/Story/0,,2064335,00.html

  39. comment number 39 by: GarlicBreath

    Yet another wacked out “cho” this time, thank god, the police stoped him in time. A job well done by the police.

    On New Year’s Eve, La Habra police shot and killed Michael Cho in a strip mall parking lot when he allegedly threatened officers with a tire iron.

    The cho family is very excited about the possible gold mine that has fallen in their lap. So much so, they hired celebrity ambulance chaser Mark Geragos.

    Cho’s family has hired attorney Mark Geragos’ firm to represent them in a possible lawsuit against police. Geragos has represented several high-profile clients, including Michael Jackson, Scott Peterson, who was convicted of killing his wife, and Brent R. Wilkes, convicted of bribing former Rep. Randy “Duke” Cunningham (R-Rancho Santa Fe).

    I am just relieved that the police stoped him in time. We should all be grateful for the police in La Habra California.
    .