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Pinoy hits Korean with golf club in golf club dispute

November 12th, 2007 . by Matt

I hear from people in the Philippines that there are a lot of tensions between the locals and new Korean businessmen and immigrants. From the SunStar

NORTH Cotabato Vice Governor Emmanuel Piñol is not sorry for hitting a Korean national whom he described as arrogant during a fight at a golf club last week.

In fact, Piñol is sorry he did not hit the Korean hard enough.

At the Kapehan sa Dabaw forum held at Pizza Hut in SM Davao Monday, Piñol said the Korean deserved a harder whack with a golf club.

Piñol said his action on hitting Young Yun Youn was an act of defending not just himself but the honor of the Filipinos which, he said, the Korean had derided during the incident.

Piñol said he was taking his time that Friday at the Davao City Golf Club when a fellow Filipino golfer identified as Gary Santiago informed him that the Korean was disrespectful and arrogant while playing at the golf course.

He said he advised Santiago to talk with the Korean and settle matters peaceably. A few minutes later, Piñol overheard the Korean shouting at the Filipino golfer prompting Piñol to come to the aid of Santiago.

“Do not shout at the Filipinos, we don’t like to be shouted at. You are just a visitor here in our country. This is not South Korea,” Piñol narrated as having told the Korean.

The Korean then shifted his anger at Piñol and shouted at the vice governor. Piñol approached the Korean with his golf club, which the vice governor was using at the putting green.

As he approached, the Korean was challenging to hit him with the club.
“I wanted to hit him right there and then but his older companion came to me and appeased me. It was at this point when he poked his golf club at my face, prompting me to parry the club and hit him,” Piñol said.

The Korean allegedly tried to fight back but local people in the golf club pushed the Korean away from Piñol.

The Korean allegedly threatened to call the police and have Piñol arrested. It turned out later that the police instead arrested the foreigner after the vice governor filed complaints against him.

Piñol said his lawyers have filed deportation charges against the Korean so he will be kicked out of the country. The golf club has also banned the Korean from playing in their golf club again due to numerous complaints from other players.

“Foreigners like this do not deserve to stay even a single minute in our country,” Piñol said.

The Korean has a different story though. Young Yun Youn said Piñol meddled in an argument between him and Santiago. Yuon claimed that the vice-governor tried to hit him with a club but he was able to block it with his left arm.

“Then Piñol came to me and tried to hit me… then I said, ‘Hit me!’ but then he didn’t hit me… but he came back and hit me with the golf club,” said Youn.
Youn threatened to file charges against Piñol and even vowed to withdraw his visa from the Philippines.

“My family was very happy living here in Davao but not now. I will withdraw my visa and go back to Korea. I will never come back here,” he said.


31 Responses to “Pinoy hits Korean with golf club in golf club dispute”

  1. comment number 1 by: GarlicBreath=F a g

    so who do u believe, matthew?

  2. comment number 2 by: General Tiger

    “It was at this point when he poked his golf club at my face, prompting me to parry the club and hit him”
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    The part which makes Piñol’s side believeable.

  3. comment number 3 by: marshimallow

    Finally, someone seeing the other end of the stick when the Korean is hauled off to be arrested as the “bad” foreigner. Ha! Hopefully this will spark a decision to start debate about foreigners in other countries being legally disadvantaged in disagreements.

  4. comment number 4 by: GarlicBreath

    Mr Matt,

    One of the messages above is tarnishing my good name.

    Piñol said his lawyers have filed deportation charges against the Korean so he will be kicked out of the country. The golf club has also banned the Korean from playing in their golf club again due to numerous complaints from other players.

    Rude and arrogant. Many philipinos I know are really hating coreans.

    “Do not shout at the Filipinos, we don’t like to be shouted at. You are just a visitor here in our country. This is not South Korea,” Piñol narrated as having told the Korean.

    Corean do seem to shout a lot. I wonder why they shout so much. Even women shout. Not very ladylike.

    In fact, Piñol is sorry he did not hit the Korean hard enough.

    It soulds like he would make a good corean schoolteacher. LOL. But there is some real wisdom in his sentement. Sometimes, with Coreans students, the teachers need to beat them to get the message through. It soulds like Piñol understands coreans very well.
    .
    I think Piñol would make a good ambassador to corea. He understand coreans very well.

  5. comment number 5 by: Gerry-Bevers

    Even though the Korean may have been obnoxious, he should not have been the one arrested. It was the Filipino who struck the first blow, not vice versa. Of course, since foreigners are often the ones arrested in disputes with Koreans in Korea, maybe this is just karma.

  6. comment number 6 by: General Tiger

    Gerry-Bevers:

    Filipino who struck the first blow, not vice versa

    It depends on who you talk to, given this part:

    “It was at this point when he poked his golf club at my face, prompting me to parry the club and hit him”

    If this part was true, then it was the Korean who first touched Piñol, meaning it’s the Korean’s fault for starting things.

  7. comment number 7 by: GarlicBreath=fa g

    gerry bevers,
    perhaps u r right.
    btw, to matthew, why doesnt my other account work?

  8. comment number 8 by: Gerry-Bevers

    General Tiger,

    Poking at someone’s face does not mean they actually poked them in the face.

  9. comment number 9 by: Matt

    gerry bevers,
    perhaps u r right.
    btw, to matthew, why doesnt my other account work?

    A better question is why you have 2 accounts here? That is an internet etiquette no-no. Another no-no is including the name of another commenter in your username. Make another username, only one, and use that to comment.

  10. comment number 10 by: GarlicBreath=F a g

    What a dumb question matthew. like I told you, matthew, i have two accounts cuz my first account DIDNT WORK!!!! and about my username, is it so wrong to compliment garlicbreath?? i called him f.a.g. (fun, active guy) cuz he’s a fun and active guy in these forums…..i couldnt put all that in my username so i shortened it, so whats teh problem?
    Here…this is my one user name….i made one, now im sticking to it, happy matthew?

  11. comment number 11 by: Matt

    What a dumb question matthew. like I told you, matthew, i have two accounts cuz my first account DIDNT WORK!!!! and about my username, is it so wrong to compliment garlicbreath?? i called him f.a.g. (fun, active guy) cuz he’s a fun and active guy in these forums…..i couldnt put all that in my username so i shortened it, so whats teh problem?
    Here…this is my one user name….i made one, now im sticking to it, happy matthew?

    Like I told you, no names of other commenters in your username, “compliment” or not.

  12. comment number 12 by: BananaBoi

    GarlicBreath=Fag,

    Dude, you’re a dumbass for creating such usernames, grow up! 😛


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  14. comment number 14 by: GarlicBreath

    Its SHOCKING how arrogant Coreans are in the Philipines. No wonder kindly Philipinos hate them. (not all)

    The Koreans criticized the arrest of Patrick Kim, saying the incident has created fear and discouraged more investors in the city.

    “Patrick Kim”… trying to hold Philipinos hostage by implying to withold FDI.

  15. comment number 15 by: GarlicBreath

    Kindly Philipinos are not alone in their dislike of Coreans.

    A series of attacks on Koreans in the Chinese city of Shenyang over the past couple of months has sparked a dispute about anti-Korean sentiment among Chinese netizens

    .

    It seems that kindly Chinese in shenyang are attacking Coreans. I hope Coreans learn from these attacks and sincerely apologise to the Chinese people. China was Coreas old master, and pretty much all Corean culture developed out of china. Coreans owe much to china and should learn to behave.

  16. comment number 16 by: GarlicBreath

    More Corean wave in the philipines. A wife beating corean.

    As a result of his arrogance and disrespect toward the immigration officer four years ago, he was excluded and sent back to Korea at the time and was blacklisted for being an undesirable alien.

    Coreans should learn to respect other cultures and not act so arrogant. This is the other corean wave.

  17. comment number 17 by: kteen

    Well done, vice governor Piñol.

    Garlicbreath,

    China was Coreas old master, and pretty much all Corean culture developed out of china. Coreans owe much to china and should learn to behave.

    The American version of that would be ‘England was america’s old master’.
    And talking about culture development, I guess Japan has nothing more to say than Korea.

  18. comment number 18 by: kteen

    Garlicbreath,

    Coreans should learn to respect other cultures and not act so arrogant

    *Coreans -> Everyone
    Apart from that I pretty much agree with you.

  19. comment number 19 by: GarlicBreath

    Kteen “everyone”? Yes there are lots of other “foreigners” in the philipines.. where is the outrage twards “everyone” else? Show me similar stories about philipinos upset about French arrogance or Indonesian arrogance? SHOW ME EVERYONE ELSE…I did read a story about an American solder that is in jail in the Philipines…But show me other nationalites in the Philipines who are called “arrogant” like the coreans are…
    .
    The kindly philipinos are hating coreans more and more because of the corean arrogance… this is the corean wave….

  20. comment number 20 by: HanComplex

    Good point, GB. Many foreigners visit the Philippines but it seems that Koreans tend to be the troublemakers. Since the Korean economy started doing well from years back, Koreans have more money for travelling overseas. Unfortunately, it also means they bring the ugliness of their culture with them wherever they go. Fortunately, sometimes it only gets so far as the port of entry.
    .

    MANILA, Philippines — A KOREAN tourist was arrested upon his arrival at the Ninoy Aquino International Airport Terminal 1 after 23 kilos of accessories and assorted jewelry were found in his carry-on luggage.

    Immigration and Customs authorities found beads, sequins, plated pendants and chains which were of commercial quantity inside the backpack of Kim Chang Mo, who arrived on board a Korean Air flight from Seoul around 11 p.m. Tuesday.

    “He was intercepted for not declaring goods of commercial quantity, which is not fit for his stay here as a tourist. He should have declared it and signified his intent to pay customs duties and taxes,” Deputy Customs Commissioner Celso Templo told reporters Friday.
    http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/metro/view_article.php?article_id=89998

  21. comment number 21 by: grlcbrth=f a g

    ok matthew…..
    fine…no one has the username “grlcbrth” so its all good….no hard feelings matthew, i will be a fine contributor to occidentalism! 🙂

  22. comment number 22 by: kteen

    Garlicbreath and Hancomplex,
    I was not limiting my comments to the Philippines only. And if you really want to see ‘disrespect and arrogance by tourists towards the host country’, try walking down the streets of Bangkok after 9pm.

  23. comment number 23 by: GarlicBreath

    It seems that the Chosun Ilbo agrees with me.

    The Bad Manners of Korean Audiences

    I wonder if ‘jenny’ will call the chosun ilbo racist for pointing this out. After all the article didnt prove that every single corea is racist. LOL.

    Korean audiences lack manners, especially in classical concerts, museums and golf courses.

    Yes coreans (not all) are very rude. Even the leader of Corea acts this way. Look at him push by the Emporer of Japan. But even when roh and his wife push by him the Emperor is polite.

  24. comment number 24 by: GarlicBreath

    Correction Gim Dae Jung.

  25. comment number 25 by: VG86

    Notice how GarlicBreath intentionally twists articles written by Koreans for his own motives. A Korean writing about the faults of SOME Koreans suddenly becomes his opportunity to whine and generalize about Koreans while displaying his own obvious low self esteem.

    If Koreans are rude then what does that make him? His entire existence on this blog is to bash Koreans and to make generally rude and arrogant remarks about them. Even his username is rude.

    Just look at this link he brought up.

    http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=w9uB8WgV7_U

    I dont see the president of Korea doing anything wrong in this video. Kim Dae Jung was almost 80 years old when that video was shot. In fact hes 8 years older then the tiny and withered grey headed man you see in the video(Akihito). Kim may not look older but he is. Not to mention that Kim was repeatedly tortured during the Park dictatorship.

    Criticizing an elderly man with a broken body over something so irrelevant as this only makes you look bad. Not to mention that Akihito was able to get to his seat without any problems. Kim wasnt blocking his way, even a blind man could see it.

    I just dont understand GarlicBreaths logic. He accuses Koreans of doing stuff that he himself does on a daily basis.

    “Koreans are rude”
    “Koreans are mean”
    “Koreans are corrupt”
    “Koreans are hypocrites”.

    Ironically its as if hes secretly describing himself rather then the entire Korean race. What is GarlicBreath going to do next? Is he going to claim that Koreans are immature? Yeah, what a laugh. Just read the stuff he posts if you want a good example of true immaturity.

  26. comment number 26 by: indigoguy

    This is coming from a Filipino. I’m an ESL teacher here in the Philippines (Baguio City), and have been teaching Korean and Japanese students for a little over 5 years now. We do have a lot of foreigners who live in this city, much of which consist of Koreans.

    I have to agree, Filipino hatred is starting to grow towards Koreans (in my city, for that matter). I do hear a growing number of complaints, especially from the poorer Filipinos (taxi drivers, waiters/waitresses, street vendors, etc.) because of the rude treatment they get from many of the Koreans staying here. The “older” generation (the ajumas and ajashis) of Koreans who migrated here are o.k., but the young ones (17-30 years old) come off arrogant, stepping across the line when it comes to cultural differences.

    It’s true, we don’t like being yelled at (who does?), but that isn’t a problem with other foreigners, just the Koreans. I find it funny how it is socially acceptable in their country to do that, while probably 95% of the other countries in the world don’t condone that.

    Not only is there a lot of cultural confrontations between Filipinos and Koreans, a lot of Koreans exploit many Filipinos for lower than minimum wage jobs, but thats another story. So going back to the topic, what I do is I try to tell all my new students who just arrived, the dos and don’t s of staying here. Thankfully, most of my students do get my point and don’t really have a problem. I just can’t say the same for the other teachers.

    Yes, there are SOME (just some) Koreans who do love The Philippines, they actually want to get to know and embrace the culture we have here, and that’s all good. I tell them they’re really special. But majority of them act like we’re always trying to rip ’em off. They never trust us with ANYTHING (even to the point of teaching English, because we ‘re not Americans, just Filipinos, it’s not our language), and that hurts, but I’m used to it. I do try to understand the majority of them, but after 5 years, it still remains a puzzle.

    I’m just scratching the surface right now, this isn’t ALL I have to say, but I’ll be sharing with you guys a lot more in the future.

    GREAT blog by the way. It’s also great that you guys present it like you aren’t bashing on Koreans, but simply try to point out the “problems “they have in their cultural (a VERY sensitive topic if you’ve ever tried to discuss it with a Korean), and the constant “Japan-bashing” done by Koreans (and as a ESL teacher, I’m sick and tired of hearing stories of their history and maltreatment from Japan). These things totally have to be fixed. I salute you guys.

  27. comment number 27 by: Errol

    indigoguy Says:
    December 8th, 2007 at 5:11 am

    but the young ones (17-30 years old) come off arrogant, stepping across the line when it comes to cultural differences.

    It’s a consequence of Korea’s `W880,000 Generation’.

    T

    The government claims unemployment among the young is 8 percent.

    The number of growing non-temporary workers can be quite dangerous for society. Eun said it breaks the social morality and basis of communities.

    Downtrodden in Korean society the 880 000 Generation desire to boss other people around. The high exchange rate value of the Korean won allows the 880 000 Generation to lord it over the locals in the Philippines.

    … a lot of Koreans exploit many Filipinos for lower than minimum wage jobs, but thats another story.

    .
    Or at least to attempt to lord it over the locals.

    what I do is I try to tell all my new students who just arrived, the dos and don’t s of staying here. Thankfully, most of my students do get my point and don’t really have a problem.

    .
    indigoguy, keep up the good work. Not every individual Korean male aspires to be an oppa. But when they join an Oppa Pack? The mob mentality reemerges.

  28. comment number 28 by: GarlicBreath

    I have to agree, Filipino hatred is starting to grow towards Koreans

    Thank you for your honest opinion and for telling the truth.
    .
    I have met many coreans who act exactly like this.

    When a waiter tried to pacify the group, Tae and Sik told him, “Who are you? F**k you Filipinos!” Valbuena said in his affidavit.

    Not every single corean will act like this every minute of every day, so don’t generalize that all coreans act this way. However, its very common to see coreans act like this. So common that your average philipino is starting to hate all the coreans they meet. I can’t blame them.
    .

  29. comment number 29 by: bad_moon_rising

    VG86 Said:
    “Koreans are rude”
    “Koreans are mean”
    “Koreans are corrupt”
    “Koreans are hypocrites”

    Truth be told, those are the same sentiments held by foreigners living in Korea according to a recent survey. As Yoda might say, “Tarnishes Korea’s image, it does.” See Public Unruliness Taints Korean Image

    Unruliness tarnishes Korea’s image significantly, foreigners living in Korea said in a survey.

    The survey was conducted by the Corea Image Communication Institute (CICI) on 359 opinion leaders in Seoul, including 103 foreigners, between Nov. 28 and Dec. 14 to monitor foreigners’ changing attitudes.

    On the question of factors blackening Korea’s image, 31.7 percent of the foreign respondents picked Korea’s deep-rooted public discourteousness, followed by xenophobia with 21.9 percent and social corruption with 20.3 percent.

    Even the Koreans themselves see the problem.

    More than 24 percent of Korean respondents selected lack of respect for others in public as most needed for a better image, followed by xenophobia with 22.9 percent and corruption with 22.2 percent.

    “It is a matter of education. Generally, Koreans are well mannered when they are with those whom they know well. But such an attitude changes completely when they are surrounded by strangers,” Prof. Choi Jung-wha at Hankuk University of Foreign Studies and president of CICI told The Korean Times. “Xenophobia also stems from a self-centered mindset and ultra-nationalism, both of which are deep-rooted in Korean society.’

  30. comment number 30 by: shrokone

    Wow… this site is now officially a racist, anti-Korean, right-wing japanese website…

  31. comment number 31 by: shrokone

    All this time you are talking about how Koreans are so xenophobic, racist, ethnocentric, and arrogant… Dont you ever stop to think that this is exactly what you are?