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Son refutes mothers claim of forced labor

May 22nd, 2006 . by Matt

not forced labor
Son knows his mother is telling fibs

Many Koreans and Korean-Americans come to Occidentalism with tales of their family members being conscripted into the Japanese army and getting killed or taken to Japan as forced labor, or being kidnapped by the Japanese army to serve as army prostitutes. In all the cases that I can remember, all these comments have been pure fantasy, as with the Korean-American guy that claimed his uncles were conscripted into the Japanese army in the 1930’s and fought in China (conscription law in Korea was passed in 1943, and actual conscription started in 1944. Japan lost the war before the soldiers could be sent to the front). He also said his aunties were comfort women (its somewhere in one of the 4000+ comments on this site – if someone could find it, I would be greatful!).

Of course, when ‘eye-witness’ claims fly in the face of facts, then they are probably not true. Here is a video of Zainichi Korean man refuting his mothers claims of being a forced laborer. Translation provided by Youtube commenter Iwayabunta.

“I sometimes visit my mother to spend time together. When she talks about her past, the things she says are quite disordered.”

Mother: (to the interviewer) I came to Japan when I was 12, by the military draft when I was 12.

Son: By the military draft?

Mother: Yes, I was inducted.

Son: The military draft did not happen at that time! There are clear historical evidences but why do you repeatedly say that…

Mother: Why not?

Son: The conscription law was enacted around 1942-43. How come it happens when the law did not exist? At that time, only volunteers served the army.

Mother: What did you say? (in Korean) I WORKED AT A FACTORY.

Son: This is what everybody knows, but nobody said anything to such a stubborn idiot! Why do you repeatedly say it as the “military draft”?


Son: Why you are so angry….

Mother: (to the interviewer) My son does not have a political thought.

Interviewer: He does not?

Mother: No.

Son: Ah…

Interviewer: (He means that there is no way to correct her errors)

Notes: * Capitalized sentences are originally in Korean, and others are in Japanese.

* She came to Japan in 1929 with her relatives without the permission of her parents. It was still ten years before the law of levying for factory labor enacted in Japan in 1939.

A lawyer friend reminds me that eye-witness testimony is inherently unreliable, particularly long after an event has taken place.

The American Bar Association has warned that eyewitness reports can be thrown off by race, stress, lighting, a focus on weapons or other features instead of faces, the length of time a witness sees a suspect, and the time between the crime and the identification.

Obviously political agenda can play a part. I think it is quite concievable that his mother actually thinks she was a forced laborer.

Click above to view the video.

53 Responses to “Son refutes mothers claim of forced labor”

  1. comment number 1 by: ponta

    As I promised I checked the book,”the sino-Japanese war “you recommended.Here are some paragraphs related to Min.

    Miura concluded tha Queen Min had to go.Japanese officers had her hacked to death in her palace on October 8,1895.A Russian eyewitness made it impossble for the Japanese military convincingly to deny its compliciy.Apparently Miura and members of th e military believed that they could succeed in Korea where the diplomats had failed.The Powers responded by deploying smmall detachmens of marines in Seoul.Two weeks to he day after the murder, foreign outrage compelled Japan to recall Miura for trianl, where ,after,much ado,he was acquitted.p318

    On July 23, 1882, the rioters went on rampage,killing all Japanese in their path and unsucessfully trying to murder their icon for corruption, Queen Min,Although Queen Min escapaed piggyback on one of her servant,the rioter did manage to dispatch to the next world the Japanese advise to the Korean Army as well as three of his aides.Grand Prince Hugson reportedly exhost the mob to oust the Min and expel the Japanese.King Kojon saw the writing on the wall,, capitulated to their demands and restored his father to power.The father immeditely dismissed all senior officials from the Min clan and had his own pro-Min brother, Prime Minister Yi Chare-ung,murdered,Queen Min was thought to be dead and Grand Prince Hungson relilshed the funeral preparations.Imperial family relations had reached low.p53

    I could not find any fact that Min was raped or molestered by Japanese.
    Toadface also mentioned this story.He said he was not Korean either.I don’t understand why non-Koreans educated outside Korea believe the story based not on evidences but on Korean imagination.(I showed him
    Russian eyewitness’s

    account;still, he did not believe it).
    If you find any evidence,please tell me.
    As far as I know no serious historian confirms it.
    (If I rember correctly,Bishop Isabella did not say she was raped,neither did nor Machezie.They just said she was assasinated and the trial was not fair.In 20 century,a Korean novelist created the story, and so did Kimsoft,but they are just telling a fiction—in my opinion— trying to domonize Japan, at the same time, satisfying victim mentality of Koreans.)

  2. comment number 2 by: firesoferebus

    What’s scary is that she might be telling the truth, and the “facts and evidence” are actually lies told so many times or fakes made so convincingly that everyone believes them! OMG :O! Then everything we know could be a lie! Then… Then…

    Our heads explode ‘cuz it’s to confusing >_>. We’ll never know the truth TT.TT We might even be living in a fake world! Or you (the reader) might be the only one alive and everything else (including me) might just be a simulation! Or you could be a robot with fake memories (a la Blade Runner)!

    We’ll never know anything 100% besides what we perceive. How depressing.

  3. […] [1] Please see https://www.occidentalism.org/?p=244 to understand what the caller is getting at. [2] Koreans would have been considered Japanese as Korea was part of the empire. [3] Basically, “who did the forcing?” [4] The question of what is meant here by, “I have never heard this before” has been raised. The caller is not saying “I have never heard this before” in an admittance of incompetence in Japanese education, he is saying that it never happened, therefore he’s never heard such a thing. [5] Basically, the caller means that if you are the first to confirm this as fact, then it is important for you to show the evidence. […]