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The Metropolitician arrested

November 20th, 2007 . by Matt

Metro got arrested after being accosted with racial slurs by a drunk. Yes, the victim arrested by Korean cops. Please support Michael with your supportive comments, and help fight against this injustice. Read all about it here.


27 Responses to “The Metropolitician arrested”

  1. comment number 1 by: General Tiger

    I don’t sympathize form him being a foreigner.
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    I do sympathize his situation, which can happen to any Korean who is in his same position.
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    I also sympathize those who try to use this incident as a way to show that Koreans are “uncivilized,” when you can pretty much expect this with any police force.

  2. comment number 2 by: General Tiger

    Note: the last bit is “I also pity those who try to…..”

  3. comment number 3 by: Errol

    # General Tiger Says:
    November 20th, 2007 at 10:42 pm

    you can pretty much expect this with any police force.

    What exactly is “this”?
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    Racial discrimination? Our black friends getting the shaft by the constabulary whilst whiteKorean boy goes free?
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    Doesn’t make it right. Doesn’t mean that Michael should leave Korea and make it a worse place by condoning such shameful behaviour.
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    Solidarity Brother Michael.

  4. comment number 4 by: General Tiger

    Errol:

    Racial discrimination? Our black friends getting the shaft by the constabulary whilst whiteKorean boy goes free?

    I believe the white/black racial discrimination has little relevance in this discussion.
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    As for the overall “foreigners have a disadvantage issue”: I’ve been there, nearly getting tagged for fighting off guys with knives while in the US and France.

  5. comment number 5 by: chase

    I feel so sorry for that guy.. That’s just wrong..
    The “Ajussi” is obviously a loser and jerk
    but I can’t understand the police!! WTH…

    and I translated/ summarized his post (took me an hour) and tried to post it up on media daum agora so people can be more aware of these bad things… but somehow it didn’t work and I lost the translation…I’m so mad now.. = (;; I don’t feel like doing it again.. but I think we do need to translate these and let Korean people know about these things..

  6. comment number 6 by: HanComplex

    After reading Michael’s account I’m still dumbfounded. He avoided any confrontation with that drunken ajossi and he still go arrested. I was about to go “WTH!?” but realized that it occurred in Korea, a backward and underdeveloped culture and nation that fancies itself otherwise.

    I do sympathize his situation, which can happen to any Korean who is in his same position.

    Of course this situation can also happen to any Korean:

    The tall, male employee had come out from behind the counter and was trying to get the ajussi to leave, at which point he just plunked down in the table next to us and continued cursing at me. Fucking American this, dirty nigger that, respect Korea, I lived in America so I know you people, where are you from, American Indian, etcetera. Oh, it was lovely.

    And

    What gets me is that, on the word of an ajussi so drunk he can’t stand, and in his testimony to the cop, he mentioned he’s unemployed, has no cellphone, and lives in a boarding house – I was arrested and booked. And it was just his word against mine (oh, by the way, he said that MissKoco wouldn’t be called since she was American and you know, her word just isn’t that believable). So he’s going to just call the model and ask her for her version of the story, since she’s Korean, and despite the fact that she’s technically in my party and would tend to be on my side, her word is more valid because Koreans apparently don’t lie.

    Definitely race isn’t a factor here, Tiger.

  7. comment number 7 by: Errol

    Next time instead of MissKoco tagging along Michael could take Ms Ko.

  8. comment number 8 by: General Tiger

    HanComplex:

    Definitely race isn’t a factor here, Tiger.

    I never said race isn’t an issue, Complex.

  9. comment number 9 by: kteen

    ‘This’ dosen’t happen in other countries?

  10. comment number 10 by: stumpjumper

    Oh man, this is so messed up…This totally represent how people in Korean see foreigners.

  11. comment number 11 by: HanComplex

    I never said race isn’t an issue, Complex.

    Then what’s the point of saying

    I do sympathize his situation, which can happen to any Korean who is in his same position.

    unless you want to insinuate or imply that race isn’t an issue here?

  12. comment number 12 by: wiesunja

    Seriously, Korea is such a disgusting barbaric hell hole filled with hate filled people..er…creatures who have nothing else better to do than to wallow in their jealousy and inferiority complex of others who are more developed and mature. I seriously don’t see why anyone in his/her right mind would want to live in such a dump.

  13. comment number 13 by: General Tiger

    HanComplex:

    unless you want to insinuate or imply that race isn’t an issue here?

    It’s to seperat issues: The F**KING drunk idiot (who IS racist, given his comments), and the police who’s a bit rough (which can happen to any person in Korea, US, France, etc).
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    I’m cautioning againt calling the ROK Police racist for this matter.

  14. comment number 14 by: Aude_Sapere

    Dear wiesunja and stumpjumper

    I’m sorry but, while I think this was totally horrible thing to have happened to Metro, and while at this point, I can’t deny that it is apparent that Korea seems to have a lot of inferiority-complex-ridden people, the event doesn’t represent how all Koreans see foreigners. Maybe I’m just lucky too; of the near one-year-and-half that I’ve been here as a foreigner, I’ve met a lot of great people. A LOT. And I’m sure all of them would not stand for the crap Metro experienced.

  15. comment number 15 by: ZenKimchi

    In my experience, the people who trash Korea as being an undeveloped culture with an inferiority complex themselves have inferiority complexes because they come from areas where fried cheese curds and drag races are their great contributions to the world.

  16. comment number 16 by: babotaengi

    Don’t knock the cheese curd, dude! Ha ha.

  17. comment number 17 by: Sweet Water

    Sometimes I have difficulty understanding the logic behind the statement made by a Korean poster. Those who trash Korean culture have inferiority complex to the Koreans? Because they allegedly claimed fried cheese curds were the contribution to the world? Why is it related with the arrest of the Metropolitan? Anyway, fried cheese curds sound better to me than live octopus, which Korean people are proud of.

  18. comment number 18 by: wiesunja

    Here is an great example of Kyopo logic. Try not to barf or laugh at the complete horseshit coming out of this kyopo’s mouth. This guy, “Peter” posted his inferiority complex-ridden kyopo rage at the Metropolitician’s page in response to the criticisms of the utterly disgustingly racist actions that were undeniably shown by the Korean police to Michael Hurt. It’s hilarious to see the utter depths of total lack of class, maturity and courage these cowardly, slimy kyopo minds will stoop to in order to deflect even one iota of criticim about their society, even when the evidence clearly shows how rotten and dirty the Korean mindset is. It really is astounding. Brace yourself.

    Yeah, yeah, yeah, so it’s just another foreigner in Korea who gets bad treatment from a local drunk guy. So funny to see foreigners or white guys, and even better yet, black guys, complain and whine about being treated exactly the same way we Asians get treated back home in our respective “melting pot” countries. Seems like they really hate getting a taste of their own medicine which is understandable. But before the entire monkey brigade of expats start their usual ballistic comments at me calling me a hypocrite kyopo or barbaric Korean, I just want to let it be known that I do not condone in anyway what happened to Michael at all, and I recognize that the drunk ajeosshi was totally in the wrong. But seriously, its so funny and obnoxious to see how the expat crowd in Korea has such a thin skin and has to go freaking call the cops just because of a little verbal abuse. Seriously, that stuff happens to Korean Americans in the US or Europe 100 times more often and much worse, and yet we just grin and bear it like real men, not like weak pussies who cry “foul” or “I am going to sue you!” or “I am calling the police!” for every little damn thing that offends them. In my experience with Koreans, I found that this overly sensitive and “principle/rules are more important than harmony” nature of Americans really disgusts alot of Koreans who place more emphasis on affection and human relations rather than who is right or wrong. Personally, I agree as it is a much more humanistic and bonding way of approaching life. However, it is all in vain as foreigners really don’t care about fostering good relations and harmony and think it is more important to arrogantly assert principles of who is right and wrong than it is to be understanding. No wonder, they say that expats cannot understand “jung”.

    I also want to add that although it is a shame what happened to Michael as a victim of this idiotic ajeossi’s rant, what is more important than this so called “injustice” is making sure that everyone in the world knows that Koreans are not racist and this is just an isolated incident. Amidst all the garbage replies posted by foreign expats to this thread, all of them containing the typically expected rants of “Koreans suck. Koreans are racist, Korea is the most racist country in Asia, blah blah”, I am very happy to see posts which defend Korea and show that this stuff is much worse in other countries.

    So anyways, personally I get sick and tired of having to drudge through all the anti-Korea garbage backlash that expats just love to post when something like this happens. However, it sure is nice to see that at least some people have their heads on straight and do not fall into the trap of dwelling on the negatives. The fact that Michael was a victim of racist bantering is hardly a danger or significant at all. However, labeling Koreans as a backward nation and one which is behind China or Japan is a much more serious issue and I for one think that is is more important to focus on stopping such stupid lies to be propagated about Korea and Koreans. However, it seems as though the expat crowd thinks warning other foreigners about Korean, bad mouthing our culture, and tarnashing the image of Korea on the worldwide stage is a MUCH MORE important and required task than making sure that innocent people do not get the wrong impression. How pathetic. Goes to show what is the real motive for all of you people.

    On the last note however, I am sooo happy that the poster, Leon, above pointed out such episodes happen in Japan (and I would guess, it is worse in Japan as we all know that Japanese racism is 100 times worse than anything in Korea). I am glad that posters like him at least show Japan to be worse than Korea.

  19. comment number 19 by: Sweet Water

    Wiesunja,
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    Thank you for citing an interesting post by “Peter.” I am not sure whether this person is a typical Korean (unsuccessful) demagogue or he is also mentally-suffered like Cho Seung-Hui.
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    Peter claims that the racist incidents (like the one happened to the Metropolitan) happen to Korean Americans in the US or Europe 100 times more often and much worse. He also claims that everyone in the world knows that Koreans are not racist and this is just an isolated incident. He concluded that we all know that Japanese racism is 100 times worse than anything in Korea.
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    It’s insane for him to move permanently to a country that is allegedly 100 times worse than his home country (which he claims is not behind Japan and China). Obviously, he is not successful in the US and that makes him very resentful to his host country. At the same time, he doesn’t have enough courage to go back to Korea because, I guess, the Koreans don’t welcome ex-expatriates unless they are superstars.
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    Next time, he has to concoct a story that he was enslaved by an evil force (the imperial Japanese army?) and sent to a forced-labor camp in the United States. . .

  20. comment number 20 by: stumpjumper

    Aude_Sapere Says:

    November 21st, 2007 at 5:39 pm
    Dear wiesunja and stumpjumper

    I’m sorry but, while I think this was totally horrible thing to have happened to Metro, and while at this point, I can’t deny that it is apparent that Korea seems to have a lot of inferiority-complex-ridden people, the event doesn’t represent how all Koreans see foreigners. Maybe I’m just lucky too; of the near one-year-and-half that I’ve been here as a foreigner, I’ve met a lot of great people. A LOT. And I’m sure all of them would not stand for the crap Metro experienced.

    Thanks for your concern, Aude. I don’t usually write negative comments here. I am pro-Korean and have lots of Korean friends, but it was Gery before and now it is Michael, I just lost it.

    I just cannot imagine how Michael felt when he was labeled as a “violent criminal” in a foreign country while he did nothing wrong. The nationalism there is a way out of control. They must know that it is not doing any good to them or others. Some argued it happens everywhere, but I have been in the U.S. as a foreigner for a quite while and have called police on couple of occasions but never had experienced anything like this. Gaaah…I just don’t want to see him became a statistic.

  21. comment number 21 by: General Tiger

    stumpjumper:

    but I have been in the U.S. as a foreigner for a quite while and have called police on couple of occasions but never had experienced anything like this.

    You’re fortunate. I’ve lived in Chiacago for 6 years, and almost always had problems with racism from the police when things happen.
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    And no, I’ll not use that as a reason to call the US racist.

  22. comment number 22 by: stumpjumper

    Hi, General Tiger
    I have been in U.S. for…well, let me just say, I am not “fresh off the boat” anymore (my Kyopo friend taught me that term, lol). I was in D.C. for about 4 years, and then I moved to SF and am staying here for more than that. Yes, you might be right about me being lucky, but one thing I realized over the years is that it is kind of hard to find pure racists in metropolitan areas. Yes, people often make racial comments or jokes, but most of them are just a** holes. That can be said to the cops as well and I haven’t had any a** hole cops yet. When my neighbor ODed and running around half naked violently, they came right away. When my car was vandalized (woke up in a morning and found all of my car windows were smashed), again they came right away and assisted me very well. So, that have been my experience with them and I have no complaints yet(I also have the experiences of getting off of a speeding thicket 3x by just talking to the officers). I hope you hadn’t had any really awful experiences like Micheal had in Chicago. Cheers!

  23. comment number 23 by: HanComplex

    In his follow-up post, it turns out that some of the Metro’s close friends also were victims of assault.

    And as to the assaults this leads to, ask MissKoco, who will be leaving Korea this December, and who herself was attacked in the middle of the day by a male in his 20’s, after he followed her and her sister across the street and was leering at them in a sexual way. He continued following them across the street, within arms length, since she pushed him away from her and said, “Leave us alone!” She weighs perhaps 105 pounds. She’s 5’1″. After he had followed them down and across the street, was clearly sexually harassing them (a story I hear all the time from foreign women, unfortunately), and made a frustrated attempt to get him off them, he pushed her to the ground and began kicking her. He then walked away.
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    No one did anything. No one helped. No one called the police.
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    It was high noon in the middle of Daehakno.

    And his other friend

    Or a Korean American female friend this last summer, who came here as a law intern, who was rushing to work in a not-so-filled street at around 7:30 in the morning, if I remember her story correctly, and who, upon coming close to a guy who she would later describe as being very weird (but it’s a wide street, right? And broad daylight in Kwanghwamun) he attacked her, and she defended herself, but was then struck with a soju bottle (!) across her forehead, which split her right open. She was asking for that, right? Must have done something wrong, right?

    And another example of Korea’s finest at work

    Or take the significant other of some I know, who saw a guy get onto a subway, started pelting the living daylights out of some random agassi who was in the wrong place at the wrong time, and no one did a thing. He’s a foreigner, yet a human being with a conscience, so he followed him off the train and made a police report as he did so. THE POLICE AT FIRST REFUSED TO COME. He spoke Korean and told them what he saw. But I guess they thought it was weird he was making this call. So he continues following him around and decides at this point – this is what really makes this story ridiculously sad – to get a Korean to call FOR him, since they apparently won’t come when he called.
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    When he did convince a Korean man to get the police to come, he had been following this man for an hour. When they arrived, they initially tried to arrest THE FOREIGNER WHO HAD BEEN TRYING TO CALL THIS IN. Good thing he had clearly not been involved, or had been involved in stopping the guy from hitting the girl – since the guy could’ve just said he hit him. And had this guy been as honest as I was in my testimony, he would have filed no countercharges. In the end, his testimony was worthless, since it was his word against a Korean’s. A drunk man. They let him walk without even taking him to the station. Had that foreigner been a Korean, it would have been different.

    Seriously, I’ve never heard of a culture so backward, so xenophobic and messed up, especially for one where its people like to spout off platitudes about the alleged greatness and superiority of their country and race. What is hilarious is that it’s these same people who desperately flee from their supposed Great Homeland in droves to first world countries like No. America, Japan, Australia, etc. Talk about not being able to stand their own stink. I guess that’s what happens when a nation and culture as a whole suffers from a massive inferiority complex coupled with insecurity issues. Really pathetic.
    http://metropolitician.blogs.com/scribblings_of_the_metrop/2007/11/a-few-more-word.html

  24. comment number 24 by: General Tiger

    stumpjumper:

    I hope you hadn’t had any really awful experiences like Micheal had in Chicago. Cheers!

    I have had the same, and in some cases, worse experiences than Metro.

  25. comment number 25 by: alec931

    wiesunja: “Here is an great example of Kyopo logic. Try not to barf or laugh at the complete horseshit coming out of this kyopo’s mouth. This guy, “Peter” posted his inferiority complex-ridden kyopo rage at the Metropolitician’s page in response to the criticisms of the utterly disgustingly racist actions that were undeniably shown by the Korean police to Michael Hurt. It’s hilarious to see the utter depths of total lack of class, maturity and courage these cowardly, slimy kyopo minds will stoop to in order to deflect even one iota of criticim about their society, even when the evidence clearly shows how rotten and dirty the Korean mindset is. It really is astounding. Brace yourself.”
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    Peter = wiesunja
    Having a little too much fun talking to yourself with your sock accounts, wiesunja? What a pathetic loser you are. 🙁

  26. comment number 26 by: alec931

    wiesunja,
    I can’t figure out who you are trying to be more insulting to……..the kyopos with your sock accounts or the Korean-bashers with your obvious retarded antics. Oh well.

  27. comment number 27 by: stumpjumper

    I have had the same, and in some cases, worse experiences than Metro.

    Darn, I am really sorry to hear that. I don’t know what to say…Guess I have been really lucky then. Take care, GT.