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The net is a permanent record

February 7th, 2008 . by Matt

You can try to cover stuff up, but the fact is that the net is a permanent record of events.

Around three days ago I wrote about Trans-pacific Radio accusing Ampontan of having a sock. Since that time they have completely deleted that post and all the comments in it. Fortunately, the net is a permanent record. There is the google cache of their perverse cover-up. Archive.org also collects things frequently.

This is their Modus Operandi. Write something outrageous that eventually leads to their embarrassment, then delete it later on when no one is looking. And yes, they have done it before.

Now my link to their page just leads to their “affiliates” page.

Why would they cover-up something if they were not ashamed or embarrassed of something? I find it pretty interesting that they seem to have a pretty good relationship with Debito too. A case of 類は友を呼ぶ (birds of a feather flock together)? Definitely!

UPDATE: OK, it looks like they have set up a redirect so if you access their site from a link here, it goes to their affiliates page. They are posting about it now on their site. It is quite funny. But lets see the posts.

Comment by JS

February 7, 2008 @ 7:02 pm

Now that guy is trying to claim that this post was deleted!

https://www.occidentalism.org/?p=828

A comment by JS. Then Ken, a moderator, replies –

Comment by Ken Worsley

February 7, 2008 @ 10:24 pm

Even more hilarious! It\’s amazing how far some people will go to keep an in-joke going!

That should settle any credibility issues forever.

OK, kind of funny Ken, but now you are going to be exposed. First up, the redirect to the affiliate page from my site. Here it is, all youtubed.

And next up, who is that guy JS, and how is it he is able to include a link to my post at 7pm Japan time, more than 3 hours ago, when I only wrote the post around an hour ago? To make it clearer, here is a graphic for you, JS (or is that Ken? Yep!)

timestamp

Either JS has future predicting powers in which he can accurately predict posts more than 2 hours before I write them, comment on it and include a link to boot, or Ken Worsley is messing with time stamps and is actually JS, talking to himself.

Yes, this does “settle any credibility issues forever”.


11 Responses to “The net is a permanent record”

  1. comment number 1 by: Kaneganese

    Without any apology to Ponta and UNpontaN(Mr. Sakovich) ?

  2. comment number 2 by: Jay

    Now my link to their page just leads to their “affiliates” page.

    It was like that an hour ago, but I guess they restored the old post after you posted this. I suppose they were thinking you wouldn’t notice and that they could just erase what had happened.

  3. comment number 3 by: Jay

    Nevermind, it’s still redirecting to their affiliate page from the link in this post. Did they put up a script to redirect all links from Occidentalism.org to their Affiliate page, or is their site just a buggy piece of crap?

  4. comment number 4 by: Aki

    Hahaha, hilarious.

    01:10 JST, now.

  5. comment number 5 by: Aki

    From the post above.
    01:10 JST = 09:10 (occi time)

    JS’s comment
    19:02 JST = 03:02 (occi time)

    Ken Worsley’s comment
    22:24 JST = 06:24 (occi time)

    cf.)
    Time stamp of this entry
    06:06 (occi time)

    Right?

  6. comment number 6 by: camphortree

    Dear Ken Worsley and JS,

    Both of you are cordially invited to all socks fools party. Please join us at any time.
    Sincerely yours,
    Camphortree,
    a self claimed sock of Ampontan

    (A box of detergent for hand washing will be given as a door prize)

  7. comment number 7 by: gamiras

    Gee, what’s up with people like those at Trans-Pacific Radio and Debito? Debito just deletes, but they went way over that. What’s wrong with their mentality?

  8. comment number 8 by: Jay

    How they explain auto-redirects from sites that criticize them:

    Traffic from abusive sites will not reach it directly.

    Did anyone listen to their newest podcast? They joke about the Japanese in critical condition after eating poisoned gyoza, a terribly unprofessional and childish thing to do. These guys are a joke.

  9. comment number 9 by: Aki

    He seems to have used the JS-sock in another thread in the Trans-Pacific Radio.
    http://www.transpacificradio.com/2007/10/01/nova-employees-their-voices-their-stories/
    google cashe,
    http://209.85.175.104/search?q=cache:FX5FRvHD78cJ:www.transpacificradio.com/2007/10/01/nova-employees-their-voices-their-stories/

    Comment by JS
    October 5, 2007 @ 1:48 am
    Demon, nice article. I like this part:
    (…)

    I wonder whether ‘Demon’ whom ‘JS’ responded to was real or not. Also, He is using multiple IP addresses, according to his own comment in the Trans-Pacific Radio.
    http://www.transpacificradio.com/2007/12/18/japan-blogs-of-the-year-2007-voting-open/
    google cashe,
    http://209.85.175.104/search?q=cache:VLk_r_kUL_wJ:www.transpacificradio.com/2007/12/18/japan-blogs-of-the-year-2007-voting-open/

    Comment by Ken Worsley
    December 19, 2007 @ 3:46 am
    I voted for Observing Japan.
    From all ten of my IP addresses! Muhahahaha!

    I wonder how many sock puppets he has been using in the Trans-Pacific Radio and other Websites.

  10. comment number 10 by: camphortree

    Since long ago from my childhood Muhahahaha or Waehhahaha of Gahahahaha has been a typical laughing expression exercised mostly by villains in numerous Japanese manga for children.
    I am immensely amused when I see some modern Korean related bloggers or the opinion posters use Muhahahaha or Waehhahaha without being aware from where that laughing expression came from.
    Guess what counntry men like to rip off Japanese manga the most?


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